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Not just deprecated, but deleted: Google finally strips File Transfer Protocol code from Chrome browser (FTP is dead)
The Register ^ | Oct 20, 2021 | Richard Speed

Posted on 10/20/2021 9:34:06 PM PDT by dayglored

The Chromium team has finally done it – File Transfer Protocol (FTP) support is not just deprecated, but stripped from the codebase in the latest stable build of the Chrome browser, version 95.

It has been a while coming. A lack of support for encrypted connections in Chrome's FTP implementation, coupled with a general disinterest from the majority of the browser's users, and more capable third-party alternatives being available has meant that the code has moved from deprecated to gone entirely.

Support for fetching document resources over FTP was stripped from Chrome 72, proxy support for FTP was removed in Chrome 76, and Chrome 86 introduced a flag to turn it off completely.

In between 76 and 86, Google tinkered with deprecation, backing away in the first half of 2020 in response to the pandemic and the workload faced by hardpressed IT crews. However, the writing was on the wall for the venerable protocol.

By version 88 it was disabled for all users, but still could be switched back on. Now the code to support it has at last been removed once and for all, a little later than hoped.

Mozilla dumped the protocol from its Firefox browser back in July, and Apple doesn't really support it in Safari.

As for Microsoft, while its Edge browser might be based on Chromium, there is always Internet Explorer, which should still do the business should you have a need for a bit of browser-based retro file-transfer action. And few browsers deserve the retro tag as much as IE, even if Microsoft is determined to kill it off in most forms next year.

As for why FTP has attracted such ire – well, the protocol is over 50 years old and comes from more innocent times, when authentication was not what it is today. More secure options now exist (such as FTPS and SFTP) and, frankly, Google and pals would rather users opted for a dedicated transfer app than bother maintaining the code in the browser.

There remain a good few FTP sites out there (such as the US Census Bureau), although many now have alternatives for file transfer. The final ejection of the code from Chrome, which lays claim to a huge userbase, means it really is time to move on. ®

Clickable links in the original article: https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/20/ftp_chrome_95/


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: chrome; filetransfer; ftp; google; windowspinglist
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It's about bloody time. The name "FTP" became generic (like Kleenex, Scotch tape) years ago, applied to any file transfer protocol including ones that had nothing to do with FTP (e.g. SCP) but now at last FTP can be laid to rest.
1 posted on 10/20/2021 9:34:07 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
FTP IS DEAD! ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 10/20/2021 9:35:25 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored
I admit, I used FTP a -lot- back in the day. But the internet was a much more innocent place, nobody worried about encrypting file transfers. And interactive FTP was almost as good as having a shell on the remote server, for browsing around and getting stuff.

But that innocence is long gone. And there have been far better tools available for many years.

3 posted on 10/20/2021 9:39:20 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored; ShadowAce
And for those who know about SFTP, yes it still exists and works fine, but it's a subsystem of SSH (Secure SHell), not related to the original FTP, and I don't know which (if any) browsers support it as a protocol, e.g.:

sftp://host.domain.com/path/...

Anybody know?

4 posted on 10/20/2021 9:45:24 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

FTP? I don’t even know what that is, so I suppose I won’t miss it. Of course, I’m a very low tech person by choice.
If I don’t need to know, then I (almost) don’t want to know!

I do recall commercials about STP in the Olden Days. They called it
“The Racer’s Edge”.


5 posted on 10/20/2021 9:45:45 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: dayglored

Finally!!!! I guess.


6 posted on 10/20/2021 9:48:37 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: dayglored

It is still used but disabled.

You must know how to enable it to do F/W upgrades on older equipment.


7 posted on 10/20/2021 9:49:31 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: dayglored

In a former job, years ago, I had to upload files enrollment files to insurance carriers using FTP but there are much better and secure ways of doing that now.


8 posted on 10/20/2021 9:52:07 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: dayglored

Filezilla is an excellent product and gives the support for FTP, SFTP, and FTPS in an open-source product.

https://filezilla-project.org/

(There is a ‘pro’ version for $20 that gives really good support for cloud drives as well. Same link)


9 posted on 10/20/2021 9:57:51 PM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: eyedigress
> You must know how to enable it to do F/W upgrades on older equipment.

True! And perhaps even worse -- TFTP (Trivial FTP) is still required for some older device firmware upgrades. Old Cisco routers, for example.

TFTP doesn't even have the pretense of authentication available, just connect to the server and it gives you the file. Granted, that's handy and easy, but anyone who implements a TFTP server on their LAN, other than in a totally enclosed, firewalled, or better, air-gapped environment, is asking for trouble.

10 posted on 10/20/2021 10:00:59 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: markomalley
> Filezilla is an excellent product and gives the support for FTP, SFTP, and FTPS in an open-source product.

Yeah, I use Filezilla, very handy. I particularly like the split-screen (local and remote directory) display.

Some time ago I read about security issues with Filezilla but offhand I can't recall what they were or where I read it. I'll ask my IT Team Security officer about it in the morning, I think she's the one that pointed me at the source.

11 posted on 10/20/2021 10:04:12 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I use Ipswitch WS_FTP 12 to upload files to my websites. It’s a dedicate FTP program. I’ve never used a browser for my FTP needs.


12 posted on 10/20/2021 10:04:23 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: dayglored

Ipswitch WS_FTP 12 also has a split screen. Although I bought it over 10 years ago, so it’s likely far beyond version 12 (if they’re still making it).


13 posted on 10/20/2021 10:06:47 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: dayglored

Most of my products I install are behind a firewall.

The FTP is still required to get the customer to the latest and greatest. It requires certain serial commands and that old technology seems to be leaving most of the new cadets.

They do not have the means or tech to do it.

Serial is not dead.


14 posted on 10/20/2021 10:07:41 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: lee martell
Also STP, a.k.a. "DOM", from Wikipedia:
Effects of this drug include substantial perceptual changes such as blurred vision, multiple images, vibration of objects, visual alterations, distorted shapes, enhancement of details, slowed passage of time, increased sexual drive and pleasure, and increased contrasts. It may cause mystical experiences and changes in consciousness.
Sadly, the file transfer protocol FTP had none of those features.
15 posted on 10/20/2021 10:09:22 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: eyedigress
> Serial is not dead.

Not a bit. Just last week we had to arrange for a BIOS-level serial port on a computer one of our devs was using. Our usual USB-to-Serial adapter was inapplicable, since the BIOS didn't have support for USB at that level. Wound up purchasing a PCI plug-in card with a 9-pin connector. A wave of nostalgia washed over us all...

16 posted on 10/20/2021 10:13:23 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Angelino97
> Ipswitch WS_FTP

Sounds interesting. I'll look into it.

17 posted on 10/20/2021 10:14:18 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Sometimes it can get really difficult.

Technology takes off and leaves me in the dust.

My CD books are useless in my new car because it does not have a CD player.

I hate that. :(


18 posted on 10/20/2021 10:17:45 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: eyedigress
> My CD books are useless in my new car because it does not have a CD player. I hate that. :(

Wow, I would too! Does it have any other "external input" option, maybe a mini audio "AUX" input jack, or a USB socket that allows use of a Flash drive with MP3 files on it?

19 posted on 10/20/2021 10:22:04 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I must have used it once or twice but can’t recall ever actually doing FTP via a browser. I had a few FTP transfer apps I used, mostly when I had remote server/website/shopping cart code to access.

These days, I use services for the above; and dropbox and others to move larger files.


20 posted on 10/20/2021 10:24:18 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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