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Just to reiterate, the point here and the focus is the historians and historical malpractice.
1 posted on 11/12/2021 7:42:48 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: It's good thing I have a big fat mouth and a microphone I'm more than happy to use it. Any challenge to establishment historians rooted in provable facts is good. Progressivism's role in the skew of history needs to be dealt with.

2 posted on 11/12/2021 7:46:05 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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Juxtaposing George’s writings reminded me of Henry VIII releasing a work under his name defending the Seven Sacraments against Martin Luther. That contrasts with his later actions a wee bit.


3 posted on 11/12/2021 7:56:41 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Seems like an overreaction. Many leaders and politicians put in place policies they personally opposed for pragmatic reasons. Plus most of the original colonies were run like mini theocracies or monarchies where heretics were sent into exile. Before declaring independence many of the early colonies were falling over themselves to get the official imprimature of the King in order for their trade to be protected from piracy and rival nations.


4 posted on 11/12/2021 8:09:34 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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Marxists Lie, that is what they do.


5 posted on 11/12/2021 8:10:40 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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The author is more right than the Smithsonian, but he is overstating the case by calling the Virginia laws “abolitionist”. They were laws aimed at suppressing or (later) banning the international slave trade into Virginia. They did not propose to abolish (or even limit the practice of) slavery itself.

A more nuanced view is found here:

https://allthingsliberty.com/2020/09/the-first-efforts-to-limit-the-african-slave-trade-arise-in-the-american-revolution-part-2-of-3-the-middle-and-southern-colonies/


6 posted on 11/12/2021 8:12:13 AM PST by edwinland
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The Smithsonian has an agenda.

They also went throughout the country late 1800’s and early 1900’s

hoovering up
every giant ( nephiliam) skeleton

they could con locals out of

and stuck them somewhere out of sight somewhere within its bowels never to be seen or acknowledged again.

Can’t have evidence that confirms the bible and make their god darwin look bad.


7 posted on 11/12/2021 8:19:21 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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This is historical malpractice. So George wrote some paper some time for some people to read, so what. When the pedal was down against the metal, what did King George actually do? Actions speak louder than words. When King George III had the opportunity, he sided with slave traders over abolitionists. Here's the actual text of the King's veto:

This is what I have often said about Thomas Jefferson. He could wax eloquently about how bad it was to keep people as slaves, but he kept his own slaves.

8 posted on 11/12/2021 8:24:16 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Just to reiterate, the point here and the focus is the historians and historical malpractice.

Good point. My favorite examples is when people try to make the Declaration of Independence about slavery. This is a very bad case of historical malpractice.

The Declaration of Independence is about the right of a collective people to declare independence from a government they see as no longer representing their interests.

Subsequent generations have reinterpreted it to be a condemnation of slavery, which is absolutely misrepresenting it's purpose and intent.

9 posted on 11/12/2021 8:31:50 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Maybe Roberts is just trying to say that George III wasn’t Hitler. That the US and the UK were able to get along so well later supports that view.


21 posted on 11/12/2021 10:08:54 AM PST by x (Sorry, couldn't resist ...)
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The formerly great British love to crow how they outlawed slavery in the 1830s. Except they did but they didn't. The new law only affected the homeland and the Caribbean colonies, not the African or Asians ones.

Some Commonwealth countries in Africa continued to allow chattel slavery until the turn of the 20th Century. And British Hong Kong had its own peculiar form of indentured servitude (called mui tsai) that wasn't banned until the 1920s that allowed the buying of young Chinese girls to be kept as household slaves/servants until they were emancipated through marriage .

So Huzzah! for 'Ol Blighty!

23 posted on 11/12/2021 12:07:33 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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George III, he wasn't all that bad of a guy!

Even the English were not all that enamored of him.

The war of American Independence, that was enjoyable by and large
Watching England's free descendants busy defeating German Jarge

-Flanders & Swann - The War Of 14-18

29 posted on 11/12/2021 3:35:57 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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