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To: Beave Meister; All
What a bunch of frigging liars...

You mean like the Russians who have lied and broken every single arms agreement they have ever signed since 1991, which has led to them having the most advanced and powerful nuclear force in the world with more nukes than the USA, the UK and France combined?

Why are we even worried about a "recently discovered paper" according to Russian state media, apparently hidden after all these years (and even denied by Gorbachov, who says there were NO discussions about NATO expansion in those days), but not about the way Russia has taken advantage of Western weakness to militarize their borders with enough Nukes and weaponry to sweet through all of Europe?

But if the United States allegedly had a verbal agreement--that apparently was never made into any kind of signed agreement or treaty--that it violated, who gives a shit about what Russia has done to change the balance off power in the world!

BTW, the Putinists on this forum constantly tell us what goes on in Russia and Ukraine is none of our business. And yet they sure do spend a LOT of time spreading Russian bullshit and propaganda to justify not only the annihilation of Ukraine, but even want Poland stomped on, since Poland's entry into NATO "violated agreements!" with Russia by them joining in 1997!

12 posted on 02/18/2022 7:21:36 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So you agree Russia can put missiles into Cuba, because we previously made the agreement to take them out of Cuba with the USSR?


38 posted on 02/18/2022 10:36:56 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The NATO talk is a red herring. It was never happening. Ukraine has too many Russian connections and corruption to ever be in NATO. What this is really about is Ukrainian membership in the EU. Putinists do not want Ukraine in the EU above all because that would be the beginning of the end of their kleptocratic rule in Russia.


54 posted on 02/19/2022 7:20:45 AM PST by lodi90
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