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TABLE FROM THE FLCCC ALLIANCE COMMUNITY WEBSITE

This graph of the I-TECH study results clearly shows that even in this underpowered study, mortality benefits trend in FAVOR of ivermectin. Even though there were SEVEN fewer deaths with the use of ivermectin in this study— the authors STILL erroneously concluded that IVM was ineffective for COVID. The question to be answered here by JAMA is why they ever chose to publish this highly misleading study.


What happened to the patients when they did progress to severe disease? What did the study find out about its secondary outcomes, which included rates of mechanical ventilation, intensive care unit admission, 28-day in-hospital mortality, and adverse events? Let’s take a look:

In which arm of the study would you prefer to be? The study showed that fewer people in the ivermectin arm of the trial required mechanical ventilation or ICU admission. Fewer died, of course, while more experienced diarrhea. It is likely that most would say that they would MUCH prefer to be in the ivermectin arm of the study.


1 posted on 02/20/2022 8:32:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Did a search of the article - the word “zinc” did not appear. My understanding was that the ivermectin was to act as an ion to help the body absorb the zinc, same as HCQ or quercetin. So they are doing studies on these things without the zinc...would seem to not actually be studying what is said to help with COVID19.


2 posted on 02/20/2022 8:39:52 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

This doctor has been treating COVID patients with Ivermectin, other drugs, vitamins, and minerals. Check out her Twitter feed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SabinehazanMD


5 posted on 02/20/2022 9:25:57 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction (Vim vi repellere licet)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Scientific American calls the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) a fringe doctor’s group. FLCCC and others like them are encouraging and enabling people to take the drug off-label to treat or prevent COVID—despite a lack of solid evidence that it works against the disease and the fact that high doses can be harmful. In doing so, some experts believe these groups are undermining vaccination efforts. reliable safety data on the prolonged courses being recommended currently or in patients taking ivermectin while suffering from COVID-19 and all the immune and metabolic changes associated with this disease.”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fringe-doctors-groups-promote-ivermectin-for-covid-despite-a-lack-of-evidence/


6 posted on 02/20/2022 9:38:36 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess they didn’t expect other doctors would just jump in and peer review it as well.


7 posted on 02/20/2022 9:45:44 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: SeekAndFind

No Zinc and doxycycline (or azythromycin) and the study is trash. Zinc is the bullet that kills the virus after ivermectin gets it inside the cell wall. The antibiotic fights inflammation. This study is like saying that guns loaded with blanks are no more effective in stopping crime than no guns at all.


9 posted on 02/20/2022 10:13:41 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: SeekAndFind
For this I am looking at what FLCCC did to reach its conclusions. This is from the bottom of the first page of the report (WARNING: Wall of text):

"RESULTS Among 490 patients included in the primary analysis (mean [SD] age, 62.5 [8.7] years; 267 women [54.5%]), 52 of 241 patients (21.6%) in the ivermectin group and 43 of 249 patients (17.3%) in the control group progressed to severe disease (relative risk [RR], 1.25; 95% CI, 0.87-1.80; P = .25). For all prespecified secondary outcomes, there were no significant differences between groups. Mechanical ventilation occurred in 4 (1.7%) vs 10 (4.0%) (RR, 0.41; 95% CI, 0.13-1.30; P = .17), intensive care unit admission in 6 (2.4%) vs 8 (3.2%) (RR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.27-2.20; P = .79), and 28-day in-hospital death in 3 (1.2%) vs 10 (4.0%) (RR, 0.31; 95% CI, 0.09-1.11; P = .09). The most common adverse event reported was diarrhea (14 [5.8%] in the ivermectin group and 4 [1.6%] in the control group)"

I posted that to show reading a mass of statistics written out is really hard. When someone wants to hide what they do not want to admit openly, then writing out statistics in natural language is the way to make it as confusing as possible. What FLCCC did was go through this text, put the numbers into a table (Just like all the other data except these. Now lets make that text a little more readable:


Event:       group              statistics 
             Ivermectin         Control 
mechanical
ventilation  4 (1.7%)   10 (4.0%) RR, 0.41; 95% CI, 0.13-1.30; P = .17
ICU admin    6 (2.4%)    8 (3.2%) RR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.27-2.20; P = .79
28-day 
in-hospital 
death        3 (1.2%)   10 (4.0%) RR, 0.31; 95% CI, 0.09-1.11; P = .09
Most common adverse event:
diarrhea 14 (5.8%) 4 (1.6%) - no details given -

This matches what FLCCC got out of the study. My conclusions:

First, the authors say this supports that "For all prespecified secondary outcomes, there were no significant differences between groups", which is contradicted by what was found for ventilation and 28 day in hospital death. ICU admission was the only one where they were close, and one out of three is not a majority. Both mechanical ventilation and death are more severe secondary outcomes than ICU admission, when ICU is common for Covid.

Second, "In this randomized clinical trial of high-risk patients with mild to moderate COVID-19, Ivermectin treatment during early illness did not prevent progression to severe disease", when it prevented patient death better than the control. Because patients on ivermectin still got sick, then it was not considered to work, even though fewer were put on ventilators or died. "Not dying" is more important than "not having more severe symptoms and treatment".

Third, Ivermectin at 0.4 mg/kg may be too low. FLCCC recommends 0.6 mg/kg for hospitalized patients. I am not a doctor, so I can't comment beyond this.

Forth, those who advocate Ivermectin, support its use for prevention and early treatment, not after the disease has gotten to the point that inpatient care is needed. For this study, the patients were all but guaranteed to go from mild to severe disease. This study answers a question that no one supporting the use of Ivermectin is claiming.

When it comes to Covid, prevention and eartly treatment are effectively outlawed and forbidden subjects in scientific study. Finally, this is JAMA. They have politicized research and sacked members who question their politics in the past. This looks like they are still using their same old tricks now.

11 posted on 02/20/2022 10:18:04 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: ransomnote
Ping.

One more for your collection.

12 posted on 02/20/2022 10:49:53 PM PST by Widget Jr
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