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Posted on 02/26/2022 4:54:26 AM PST by marktwain
This is another in a series of self-defense against bear events uncovered in a Freedom of Information Act request done by AmmoLand. It seems they have not been published before.
At about 10 a.m. on the morning of May 28, 2016, a father-son pair of shed antler collectors were searching for antlers in the Bear Creek drainage of the Shoshone National Forest, about 16 miles northeast of Dubois, Wyoming.
The father and son had separated. The father went up a draw, and the son went up a side hill to a flat bench. The son had reached the top of the bench when he saw a “brown flash” in the tree line above him. He thought his father had probably flushed an animal out of the draw. As he looked at it again, he realized it was a grizzly bear, and it was running toward him.
The son yelled at the bear and drew his Springfield sub-compact. He did not have a round in the chamber. The Springfield comes with a 9 round and a 10 round magazine. He chambered a round and checked to be sure the safety was off. The pistol was new. He had never fired it before. His father had owned the same model for some time.
The son noticed, as the bear continued to run at him, that it appeared to be in full charge mode, with its ears laid back. He noticed a cub was with the sow. As the sow came within 30 yards of him, he started firing at the bear and moving to put a small tree between him and the charging grizzly.
The son fired his final rounds as the charging bear approached within feet. The bear went down and slid downslope about five yards where it died. In the investigation which followed,
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
I think the sow should have been allowed to destroy the threat to her cub. The bear was in her own territory when attacked. She has self defense on her side just as a homeowner has the law on his side if broken into.
I’m not sure how well I would’ve done with a .40 caliber subcompact...especially a new unfired one. I considered a Kahr PM40 subcompact...but went with the PM9 instead. I wouldn’t want to go up against a grizzly with either but any gun is better than none in that situation. The young man did well.
Even though he never fired the gun it appears he’s familiar enough with them where it didn’t cost him his life. Especially not having a round chambered.
So humans should never be allowed to enter the woods. Got it.
They do not own the woods. We do.
We are the dominant species on the planet.
We are at the top of the food chain.
Bears have no rights to "defense".
The bear attacked the human without provocation.
Most bears retreat from humans. Those who do not, need to be shot and killed.
10 shots on a charging bear? Amazingly fast shooting or a very slow bear...
You really think that?
The antler-seeker started shooting when the bear was 10 yards out. It is likely the early shots slowed the bear a bit, and might have deflected it a little.
It is not hard to fire 10 shots in two seconds.
The record holder fired eight accurate shots at close range from a revolver, in one second.
It probably took the bear more than two seconds to cover the distance.
did the cub survive?
I think you are either being factitious or really mean it.
If the former, a (sarc) tag would help, if the latter, a mental health intervention.... (sarc).
“did the cub survive?”
Nope.... caught a round and was put down.
Animals do bot have “self defense” on their side.
Laws meant for humans do not similarly protect animals and animals do not respect our laws, either.
I wonder why.
All animals should be considered food sources, including animals people might otherwise think should only be pets, in their cultures.
These titles. I feel like I’m reading assignments from a 7th grade journalism class.
This guy was lucky in that he was in the open and had plenty of time to react. Carrying a pistol without one in the chamber is downright foolish, whether you’re protecting yourself against four-legged or two-legged predators. In Alaska, a lot of times you don’t even see the bear until he/she is just yards from you. The most popular bear protection firearm in Alaska right now is the Glock 20, with either Buffalo Bore 220 gr or Xtreme Penetrator 140 gr rounds.
Thanks for the post. Love these tales. I used to carry bear spray all the time in Montana forests (and these days, river bottoms on the prairie), but because so many of these Ammoland reports mention spray failure, I always carry at least a pistol, my 30-06, no bear spray. If I am wingman for another hunter, I leave the rifle behind and carry a 12-gauge, extended tube, alternating 00 buckshot and slugs, 9 rounds. The shotgun is heavy as heck, but I do not fit it with a sling because I want to have it in my hands at all times, finger on the safety, one 00 in the chamber. I have long ago determined the grizzlies do not deserve warning shots, either.
Where we hunt, lions are more scary to me because they are so danged sneaky. More than once while backtracking to camp, I have found lion tracks in the snow trailing me in the morning.
You are welcome.
The stories are as accurate as possible.
There are many myths, bad reporting, and bad research about the effectiveness of pistols, rifles, bear spray, and bear attacks out there.
Thank you for another great article!
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