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I think Russia is engaging in their version of the Alsos Mission, which was the project for finding and tracking the nuclear projects in NAZI Germany by the OSS. They found that Germany was at least a year behind the Allies.

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According to the Budapest Agreement, Russia is clearly in violation by invading, so the agreement invites the UN and the US and Ireland and Britain to get involved.

My preferred form of involvement is to help Build Back Better their nukes, since the agreement is null and void.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170312052208/http://www.cfr.org/nonproliferation-arms-control-and-disarmament/budapest-memorandums-security-assurances-1994/p32484

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1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great

Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine;

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or

political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations;

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The last TASS article I read was about how the ukes were maybe gonna build nukes. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4044173/posts

If their invasion is going to plan, they are giving far too much time to the ukes to build their nukes.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4048918/posts?page=83#83

Kevmo to woodpusher Kevmo: The ukes had nukes in 1994. Wood: The Ukes had Russian nukes. Now they have huge mounds of rubble instead of cities. ***Proof positive that nukes are a deterrent, absence of nukes are an invitation to walk all over a country when your neighbor is simply a bully.

They have Russia next door. It seems Russia objects to their saber rattling about joining NATO. ***They can object all they want. They INVADED. Twice.

Good luck with that bomb making plan. ***Thanks.

And designing a nuclear bomb is not making a nuclear bomb. The kid could not go to the hardware store and get the parts. ***But a country with 15 nuke power plants and a Chernobyl could do so.

It seems difficult to build one of those things ***Not so difficult. Just clumsy yields of kilotons rather than megatons, that’s all.

and keep it a secret. ***We kept ours a secret until we used it. The nuke pathway of the Ukes hasn’t been all that much of a secret.

The Ukes had fifteen nuclear power plants. It seems some of those are under new management. ***Yup. The Ukes are running out of time.

We were not in an existential war. We were not threatened with extinction at the end of WW2. ***Interesting take. We WERE threatened with extinction throughout WW2 alongside the rest of Europe while that whole program was being developed. And when the time came to blow the frack out of the japs, it was an easy decision to make in terms of expected American casualties versus expected Jap casualties, somewhere in the realm of 100,000 to 1. In addition, since the japs showed a propensity for fighting to the last half dozen men, we saved about 5 million jap lives as well as 1 million American lives. But... we’re just getting nuanced now.

We would have had to lose a lot of troops to fight it to a finish. We dropped nukes on cities and ended the war. As Patton said, nobody wins a war by dying for his country, wars are won but making the other dumb bastard die for his country. ***And your point is???

Since we stopped being the sole nuclear power, there was been a recognition of mutual assured destruction (MAD) if there be one. ***And MAD is within reach of Ukraine because while the Rukes are in a position to turn Ukraine into glass, the Ukes are in a position to turn Ruke POLITICAL landscape into glass just by nuking a couple cities.

The idea that the Ukes would nuke Russia might make Russia object to them having nukes. ***They already have. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4044173/posts

We have never had any obligation to go to war for Ukraine. ***We signed that Budapest thing. We could help them avoid a nuke war. That is our obligation.

Even Ukraine has admitted that. ***WHere?

The Budapest Memorandum is a Memorandum, not a Treaty. ***Semantics. Tell that to the tens of millions of lives you directly threaten by doing nothing to honor an agreement that left them high & dry. We had a vital interest in not jeopardizing hundreds of millions of lives with those nukes, so we signed that agreement. The Ukes HONORED that agreement; the Rukes VIOLATED that agreement and invaded twice; and Pukes like you are busy trying that there pantywaist appeasement semantics approach to abrogate our end of that agreement.

There is no military obligation even spoken about. ***Then give them back their nukes. Make the whole thing their problem.

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-­Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used. There’s a memorandum worth its weight in paper. It commits to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine. Sounds like a plan. You never know though. Somebody might veto the idea. ***Yup, the whole Budapest Memorandum thing might be just completely void, like you are arguing above. Which means the Ukes are free to pursue their nukes. And start a nuclear war, because... they are in an existential war.

1 posted on 03/23/2022 2:40:44 PM PDT by Kevmo
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To: Kevmo

If these labs really existed then the Russians would get more mileage out of them by inviting foreign media and experts to go examine them instead of reducing them to meaningless rubble.


2 posted on 03/23/2022 2:46:39 PM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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To: Kevmo

So this was a lab whose function it was to try to find ways
to more safely handle nuclear waste?

Whew! I’ll bet everyone feels more safe that having been
shut down. /s

This is the first lab I’ve heard of Russia taking control of,
and it seems any findings there could be used to help Russia
or any other nation that has nuclear waste.

Oh wait, this has to be propaganda. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


5 posted on 03/23/2022 3:05:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Kevmo
https://youtu.be/r2jX59BKHO0

People like you that are encouraging this war should go over there and try and kill Russians yourself. The war was over before it started. All you are doing is encouraging other people to die needlessly, and maybe, even start a nuclear war.

9 posted on 03/23/2022 3:21:26 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Hungering and thirsting for Righteousness...)
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To: Kevmo

It’s amazing the stupid shit you monkeys and apes are willing to believe, but you’ll still come spam perfectly good threads and articles about “fake news”.


10 posted on 03/23/2022 3:22:25 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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