[wardaddy]

That’s not why Russia invaded

They invaded over the eastern provinces Russian majority desire to be Russian and Putin’s insistence no NATO

And whatever Putin’s aims he hasn’t made public

That Ukraine as a nation or democracy is so flimsy and where it is means not our interest particularly

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Russian majority desire to be Russian

Even Strelkov, the former Minister of Defense for Donbass, describes the area as a shithole that has been utterly ruined by Russia's military. Now it is even worse, since the Russians have forcefully mobilized all men up to the age of 65 to fight, with only a few days of training, and being given WW2 guns and uniforms. They are dying right now in massive numbers as meat.

When Ukraine wins and drives the Orcs and Goblins out, we will learn the full extent of mass murders, raped and other crimes committed by Russia on the allegedly "Pro-Russian" population there. Based on preliminary information from people who have escaped there, they compare it to a nightmare open are gulag.

[Petrosius]

The Donbas does not have a Russian majority; it has a Russian speaking majority but the majority identify themselves as Ukrainians. And if the goal was to keep Ukraine out of NATO, Zelensky has already concede this point. Let the Russians declare victory and go home.

[MercyFlush]

If you’re so committed to self-determination then let Russia hold a vote for independence in Koenigsburg.