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Get over it: Microsoft is a Linux and open source company these days (Opinion column)
The Register ^ | Jul 13, 2022 | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 07/13/2022 9:43:14 PM PDT by dayglored

Get over it: Microsoft is a Linux and open source company these days

'The Evil Empire' hasn't been evil for about eight years now

Opinion In the beginning, Microsoft was The Evil Empire.

In 2001 then CEO Steve Ballmer declared: "Linux is a cancer." Later, Microsoft sponsored SCO's copyright attack on Linux; claimed that Linux violated unnamed Microsoft patents; and forced Linux-based Android vendors to pay for dubious patent claims. Bill Gates and Ballmer's Microsoft wanted to see Linux and open-source software (OSS) dead and buried.

They did it because, as Microsoft's Halloween documents show, they believed "OSS poses a direct, short-term revenue and platform threat to Microsoft, particularly in server space."

Well, hey, they were right!

They also realized that open source was better than any number of developers they could get to live in Redmond, Washington. "The ability of the OSS process to collect and harness the collective IQ of thousands of individuals across the Internet is simply amazing. More importantly, OSS evangelization scales with the size of the Internet much faster than our own evangelization efforts appear to scale."

Microsoft's answer? "OSS projects have been able to gain a foothold in many server applications because of the wide utility of highly commoditized, simple protocols. By extending these protocols and developing new protocols, we can deny OSS projects entry into the market."

For Microsoft, this was a tried-and-true method of squashing its enemies. You know it best from the phrase Paul Maritz, then Microsoft's executive vice president of the Platforms Strategy and Developer Group, used in 1998 to describe Microsoft's answer to Netscape as "embrace, extend, extinguish."

But pay attention, folks. The most recent of those stories is ten years old. Maritz left in 2000. Gates stopped doing day-to-day work at Microsoft in 2008. In 2021, the billionaire was pushed off Microsoft's board for having an affair with an employee. Ballmer? He quit being Microsoft CEO and resigned from the board in 2014. They're history. And so are their anti-Linux and OSS ways.

Embrace, extend, extinguish also failed against the open source method, and – this is the important bit – Microsoft knows it.

So when Satya Nadella took charge of Microsoft as its new CEO and said: "Microsoft loves Linux," that wasn't just lip service. He knew that to make money, Microsoft had to really embrace, and not extinguish, open source.

Nadella told Wired back in the day that he wasn't interested in fighting old battles. Linux has become a vital part of today's business technology. "If you don't jump on the new," he said, "you don't survive."

As TechCrunch reporter Ron Miller put it: "Microsoft went from a company trying to compel customers to buy an all-Microsoft, all-the-time kind of approach to one that recognized it was important to work across platforms and to partner widely."

That meant making friends with one-time enemies such as Salesforce, and not just loving Linux but incorporating Linux into its products – Linux is the top guest operating system in Azure – and hiring leading Linux and open source developers such as systemd architect Lennart Poettering and Python creator Guido Van Rossum.

Today, you think of Microsoft as a big deal, that it's just behind the FAANG companies on the stock market. What you don't remember is when Ballmer quit in 2014, Microsoft's stock had fallen over 40 percent. When Ballmer announced he was leaving, Microsoft's stock price was $34.47. On July 8, 2022, it was $267.66.

Get the picture? Microsoft has become more valuable than ever because it finally figured out that it was better to join Linux and open source than to fight it. If you still think Microsoft is the enemy, think again.

Sure, Microsoft isn't perfect. For example, there are serious legal and ethical questions about how its subsidiary GitHub is using open source code in its commercialized Copilot AI-based pair-programming service, and it has made some missteps as with .NET Foundation late last year.

However, you can find fault with any major company using Linux or open source software.

All things considered, it's well past time to stop being so harsh on Redmond. Stop judging Microsoft on what it did a decade ago and judge it by what it's doing today. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: linux; microsoft; opensource; technofascism; windowspinglist
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Interesting opinion column.

Should be good for a few pithy comments. :-)

1 posted on 07/13/2022 9:43:14 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Microsoft Loves Linux ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 07/13/2022 9:44:47 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

but i don’t have to pith


3 posted on 07/13/2022 9:49:41 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: dayglored

MS was stupidly managed under Ballmer and is one of the best managed companies under Nadella. That’s the difference.


4 posted on 07/13/2022 9:51:49 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: dayglored
I will opine that I largely agree with the author, in that Microsoft has certainly dropped its overt hatred and animosity toward Linux/open-source in the past few years. I'm especially impressed by the degree to which Windows has incorporated Linux.

Nevertheless, I recognize that Microsoft is a business, not a charity, and the company has no morals, and no qualms about doing whatever they think they need to do to prosper.

Do I trust Microsoft? LOL. I trust Microsoft... to do what they think is good for Microsoft. No more, no less.

5 posted on 07/13/2022 9:52:48 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Bob434
> but i don’t have to pith

Well played, sir.

6 posted on 07/13/2022 9:53:49 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored
Stop judging Microsoft on what it did a decade ago and judge it by what it's doing today.

Microsoft, like most software companies anymore, is a rental agency. It's nigh upon impossible to own copies of the software it creates. I don't know if proprietary open source software (POSS) is a thing -- or proprietary open source software as a service (POSSaaS), but maybe that's what the author is going for.

7 posted on 07/13/2022 9:56:02 PM PDT by jz638
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To: libh8er
> MS was stupidly managed under Ballmer and is one of the best managed companies under Nadella. That’s the difference.

Excellent point.

8 posted on 07/13/2022 9:56:32 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored
> I will opine that I largely agree with the author, in that Microsoft has certainly dropped its overt hatred and animosity toward Linux/open-source in the past few years. I'm especially impressed by the degree to which Windows has incorporated Linux.

Windows was and is to computing what COVID-19 is to humanity, an existential threat which had caused orders of magnitude more harm than good, and was forcefully spread via highly unethical, illegal, and immoral business practices .... and Bill Gates is behind both of them !

9 posted on 07/13/2022 10:12:10 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: dayglored

“Microsoft has certainly dropped its overt hatred and animosity toward Linux/open-source in the past few years. I’m especially impressed by the degree to which Windows has incorporated Linux”

Don’t forget then android subsystem for Win 11


10 posted on 07/13/2022 10:12:50 PM PDT by algore
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To: SecondAmendment
> Windows was and is to computing what COVID-19 is to humanity, an existential threat ... and Bill Gates is behind both of them !

No disagreement about Gates being behind both.

Over time both Windows and COVID-19 have become far less virulent than they were at their peaks. One difference, though, is that while COVID has become more widespread, Windows is constantly losing market share to other operating systems. I don't expect Windows to disappear any time soon, but the trend is undeniable -- Windows' best days were years ago, and it's now on a long, slow decline into irrelevance. I give it 10-15 years. And it may have to morph into something else before then, just to survive.

11 posted on 07/13/2022 10:25:39 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored
PCs are to 1990s.
12 posted on 07/13/2022 10:32:04 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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I wouldn’t say IS, but definitely trending towards being true.


13 posted on 07/13/2022 11:21:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: dayglored

‘The Evil Empire’ hasn’t been evil for about eight years now.

Windows 10/11 spy’s on you. If using Office 365 and newer versions everything you type can be recorded. It certainly is at work. Other software by other companies do spy on you but that is mainly for work sites and not your home. Windows and Office spy’s on you at home. There are software that says they can block this but it is like someone (microsoft) trying to peek into your home all the time.

Google: Microsoft Office spy’s on you
Windows 10/11 spy’s on you

Remember cbs reporter Sharyl Attkisson who had her pc hacked during the obama/Biden years and it was thought to be from cbs and the federal gov’t. She feared they were trying to set her up by placing secret gov’t files on the pc.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/01/14/sharyl_attkisson_how_government_illegally_spied_on_journaists_and_doctored_documents.html


14 posted on 07/13/2022 11:42:07 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: McGruff
PCs are to 1990s.

I LOVE my PC, with its full sized, clicky keyboard, 42" screen 32GB RAM, 2x1 TB .m2 SSD, 3.8Ghz i7-9700, 5 unused slots, Built-In Blu-Ray and a boatload of software for it to run in both Windows and Linux.
15 posted on 07/13/2022 11:43:54 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: Dr. Sivana

Mini PC’s are the future. I am still using my 2015 Gigabyte pc.
https://www.amazon.com/Ryzen-Radeon-Graphics-Bluetooth-DisplayPort/dp/B09KR7M5DR/ref=zg_bs_13896591011_9/134-6569234-4596534?pd_rd_i=B09KR7M5DR&psc=1


16 posted on 07/14/2022 12:04:13 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound
Mini PC’s are the future. I am still using my 2015 Gigabyte pc.

I had a mini-PC (itx, Acer Veriton i5 w/12GB RAM, 2 TB SSD). It over-heated when I ran big databases and complex spreadsheets at the same time. It didn't like being maxed out. I ran out of slots. I prefer Intel not because of any inherent superiority in processing power, but because I prefer the Intel chipsets for business boards.

I like big slush box luxury cars with V-8s and high speed computers that aren't shy on consuming power.
17 posted on 07/14/2022 12:25:12 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: Bob434

LOL!


18 posted on 07/14/2022 2:53:19 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Dr. Sivana

I agree with you. Those dam phones with their little screens aren’t for me. Give me a real keyboard and a big monitor.


19 posted on 07/14/2022 3:31:22 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: rdb3; JosephW; martin_fierro; Still Thinking; zeugma; Vinnie; ironman; Egon; raybbr; AFreeBird; ...

'The Evil Empire' hasn't been evil for about eight years now

I'll have to say--maybe. I still don't trust MS to do anything just because it's right. I understand it's a business, etc, etc, etc. but businesses need to conduct themselves with ethics.

It'll take a lot more than 8 years of "not being evil" for me to trust again. Part of that will be at least a decade of "let's actively do good."

20 posted on 07/14/2022 4:54:16 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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