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To: icclearly

It’s still in process. It hasn’t “worked out”. I maintain that the process is being prolonged needlessly. But NATO doubling member countries in the East was a no-brainer. Russia would come back, as it has, and then it would have been able to invade its former satellites with impunity but for NATO membership. Ukraine is being tortured by the West for nefarious purposes. The torture consists of giving it enough weapons to continue to avoid being killed by a rabid bear, but the bear keeps coming because of high energy prices, which the west keeps exacerbating.


11 posted on 07/14/2022 5:03:21 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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To: Eleutheria5
It’s still in process. It hasn’t “worked out”. I maintain that the process is being prolonged needlessly.

It IS still in progress, and the momentum ever since the beginning is NOT in Ukraine's favor. Russia is winning! And you are correct, it is being prolonged by a delusional west at the expense of Ukrainian lives and massive losses on the ground. This could all have been easily avoided -- except for the intense insistence of the west/US for a proxy war. The insistence includes massive amounts of arms, NATO training for 8 years, and billions upon billions of our tax dollars.

Russia would come back, as it has, and then it would have been able to invade its former satellites with impunity but for NATO membership.

The USSR disintegrated in 1991. The aggressive expansion of NATO began in 1999. So, where is your proof that Russia was set to invade the Baltics? They had almost 10 years to do that, It never happened.

In 2007 after numerous countries were added to the so-called DEFENSIVE military organization, " NATO, " Putin issued a warning. It fell on deaf ears. Do you recall what happened in 1961? Russia placed missiles in Cuba right on our border (90 miles away), and we nearly went to WWIII over that threat. Russia was saying the same thing to the west. Get off my butt with your expansionist agenda. The response from the west was deafening.

And then, the US instigated a coup in Ukraine in 2014, and our state department hand-picked their person to run the country. So, is Putin supposed to ignore this aggression/invasion by the US -- on top of the doubling of NATO countries?

Ukraine is being tortured by the West for nefarious purposes. The torture consists of giving it enough weapons to continue to avoid being killed by a rabid bear, but the bear keeps coming because of high energy prices, which the west keeps exacerbating.

You sure got part of that right! The west is torturing Ukariane for their own personal agenda and destroying that country while losing many lives. As for energy prices, you seem to forget one important point. The energy prices have been brought on by economic sanctions that have killed our economy, launched the highest inflation in 40 years and heaped big profits on the country with the oil. Now, that's real smart. What wonderful leaders we have there.

Now you may think this has worked out well for the west, but I sure don't. It is a perfect example of destruction by our own stupidity! This will not end well.

25 posted on 07/14/2022 6:17:48 AM PDT by icclearly
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