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To: MtnClimber
I'm not too clear how Ray Epps has became a focal point. I get that he is on tape urging people to storm the Capitol - but he's no unicorn in that respect.

Here's Guy Reffitt who also incited the mob.

Or Robert Palmer.

The list goes on and on. What makes Ray Epps special? It just seems like an attempt to make believe that there wasn't really a limited number of violent MAGA people out there on 1/6. Which is silly. Out of 70M Trump voters, maybe 1-2,000 stormed the Capitol. That means a tiny fraction of Trump voters, or more properly, people with mental problems, were involved.

Instead of coming up with outlandish conspiracies, better to just state the obvious - that they are a tiny fraction and don't represent the movement.
5 posted on 07/17/2022 5:41:20 AM PDT by Observator
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To: Observator
“maybe 1-2,000 stormed the Capitol”

I think it was far fewer than that. Maybe 100-200 that pushed through the barricades and climbed the facade. Everyone else just walked in like tourists.

9 posted on 07/17/2022 6:29:09 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Observator

Welcome to the forums.


11 posted on 07/17/2022 6:37:46 AM PDT by healy61
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To: Observator

Instead of coming up with outlandish conspiracies

Like Epps on video encouraging people to storm the capital but is not rotting in jail. What, is he a fellow agent?


12 posted on 07/17/2022 6:45:56 AM PDT by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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To: Observator

I suggest actually reading the posted article, several times if you are still “unclear”.

Some of us are extremely unhappy at the thought that our own government, or political operatives in a parallel orbit, uses provocateurs to create crime. This has been shown repeatedly to be a government methodology of choice. When applied to politics, it makes a mockery of Democracy and threatens whatever is left of our Republic.

“Going into the Capitol” is the basis for calling Jan 6th an “insurrection” and thus for holding a show trial. Ray Epps is well documented inciting the J6 mob to “Go into the Capitol”, i.e., to pass the protections of legal “protest” to enter the realm of “crime”, in this case potentially very serious crime.

When someone inciting criminal behavior that subequently takes place is neither arrested, nor questioned, and his “most-wanted” pics are erased from FBI websites, and Congressional Inquisitors have zero interest in him, do you suspect that individual just a little bit?

How does the presence of other agitators give Ray Epps a pass? There were possibly many agitators, some working together, some with no knowledge of each other, and some at cross purposes. By all means get to the bottom of what all of them were up to, and who put them up to it.

How exactly would fully explaining the activities and connections of Ray Epps change the known quantity of those who rioted or entered the Capitol?


15 posted on 07/17/2022 6:57:08 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Observator

what’s your pay grade?


17 posted on 07/17/2022 7:49:40 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up.....)
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To: Observator

There is more than Ray Epps that suggests that it was in part a setup. There was refusal to provide adequate security. The video showing protesters intentionally let into the building by capital guards. The video of the murder of Ashli Babit and the breathless reports in media in its wake that the protesters were armed and shooting. There was the later absurd exhoneration of the officer who murdered her. There were the lies about the guard killed by the fire extinguisher. There was the video of the beat down of a woman on the ground with sticks in an apparent attempt to provoke protesters into a confrontation to protect her. There was the recent exposed FBI plot to convince a militia group to kidnap a Govenor.


19 posted on 07/17/2022 8:50:52 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Observator

Just because they wore MAGA hats, etc. doesn’t mean they were Trump supporters.


26 posted on 07/17/2022 12:17:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (With Trans Republicans like McCarthy and McConnell do we really want them to win Congress in 2022?)
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To: Observator

He is special because it seems obvious that he is a government agent. He promoted things that other people were sentenced by the DoJ without judge or jury to long terms in jail. He is untouchable.


28 posted on 07/17/2022 1:05:31 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe >|||<)
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