Posted on 08/06/2022 10:23:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
OK, thank you.
… The second challenge is migration, which you could call population replacement or inundation. There is an outstanding 1973 book on this issue which was written in French, and recently published in Hungary. It is called “The Camp of the Saints” [Le Camp des Saints], and I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the spiritual developments underlying the West’s inability to defend itself. Migration has split Europe in two — or I could say that it has split the West in two. One half is a world where European and non-European peoples live together. These countries are no longer nations: they are nothing more than a conglomeration of peoples. I could also say that it is no longer the Western world, but the post-Western world. And around 2050, the laws of mathematics will lead to the final demographic shift: cities in this part of the continent — or that part — will see the proportion of residents of non-European origin rising to over 50 percent of the total. And here we are in Central Europe — in the other half of Europe, or of the West. If it were not somewhat confusing, I could say that the West — let’s say the West in its spiritual sense — has moved to Central Europe: the West is here, and what is left over there is merely the post-West. A battle is in progress between the two halves of Europe. We made an offer to the post-Westerners which was based on tolerance or leaving one another in peace, allowing each to decide for themselves whom they want to live alongside; but they reject this and are continuing to fight against Central Europe, with the goal of making us like them. I shall leave to one side the moral commentary they attach to this — after all, this is such a lovely morning. There is now less talk about migration, but, believe me, nothing has changed: Brussels, reinforced with Soros-affiliated troops, simply wants to force migrants on us. They have also taken us to court over the Hungarian border defense system, and they have delivered a verdict against us. For a number of reasons not much can be said about this now, but we have been pronounced guilty. If it were not for the Ukrainian refugee crisis, they would have started to enforce this judgment on us, and how that situation plays out will be accompanied by a great deal of suspense. But now war has broken out and we are receiving arrivals from Ukraine, and so this issue has been put aside — they have not taken it off the agenda, but just put it to one side. It is important that we understand them. It is important that we understand that these good people over there in the West, in the post-West, cannot bear to wake up every morning and find that their days — and indeed their whole lives — are poisoned by the thought that all is lost. So we do not want to confront them with this day and night. All we ask is that they do not try to impose on us a fate which we do not see as simply a fate for a nation, but as its nemesis. This is all we ask, and no more.Judge for yourself, but it seems to me that Orbán is using the left’s own language to make his point. And he frames it in the context of the past Crusades to boot.
In such a multi-ethnic context, there is an ideological feint here that is worth talking about and focusing on. The internationalist left employs a feint, an ideological ruse: the claim — their claim — that Europe by its very nature is populated by peoples of mixed race. This is a historical and semantic sleight of hand, because it conflates two different things. There is a world in which European peoples are mixed together with those arriving from outside Europe. Now that is a mixed-race world. And there is our world, where people from within Europe mix with one another, move around, work, and relocate. So, for example, in the Carpathian Basin we are not mixed-race: we are simply a mixture of peoples living in our own European homeland. And, given a favourable alignment of stars and a following wind, these peoples merge together in a kind of Hungaro-Pannonian sauce, creating their own new European culture. This is why we have always fought: we are willing to mix with one another, but we do not want to become peoples of mixed-race. This is why we fought at Nándorfehérvár/Belgrade, this is why we stopped the Turks at Vienna, and — if I am not mistaken — this is why, in still older times — the French stopped the Arabs at Poitiers. Today the situation is that Islamic civilization, which is constantly moving towards Europe, has realized — precisely because of the traditions of Belgrade/Nándorfehérvár — that the route through Hungary is an unsuitable one along which to send its people up into Europe. This is why Poitiers has been replayed; now the incursion’s origins are not in the East, but in the South, from where they are occupying and flooding the West. This might not yet be a very important task for us, but it will be for our children, who will need to defend themselves not only from the South, but also from the West. The time will come when we have to somehow accept Christians coming to us from there and integrate them into our lives. This has happened before; and those whom we do not want to let in will have to be stopped at our western borders — Schengen or no Schengen. But this is not the task of the moment, and not a task for our lifetime. Our task is solely to prepare our children to be able to do this. As [House Speaker] László Kövér has said in an interview, we must make sure that good times do not create weak men, and that those weak men do not bring hard times upon our people. …
Thank you for the transcript. I am surprised that a statesman as experienced as Orban was so careless in his use of language. Race is a hot-button word, whereas culture is not, and he certainly ought to know that. Maybe he is slipping due to age like many of the rest of us?
In context, he makes the claim that the left raised the issue of “race” first. Don’t know how true that is, and I haven’t looked at the speech in Hungarian, but if the word is out there in the European discourse and Orbán did not originate it, it remains in play no matter what the left says.
Not all progressives wear D jerseys, some wear R jerseys.
Flimsey Grahamnesty for example.
McConnell, Thune, Barrasso, Blunt, Ernst, Scott, Scott, Lee, Crapo, Grassley, Shelby, Murkowski, Sullivan, Boozman, Rubio, Risch, Young, Braun, Moran, Cassidy, Collins, Hyde-Smith, Daines, Fischer, Sasse, Burr, Tillis, Hoeven, Cramer, Portman, Inhofe, Lankford, Toomey, Grahamnesty, Rounds, Cornyn, Romney, Capito, Lummis are all Bush League Republicans dedicated to the New World Order.
We MUST elect better Republicans.
Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.Who needs to be elected are constitutional conservatives regardless of any label. Not necessarily “Republicans”, who merged with the Democrats a long time ago.
— Communist goal #15
The swastika was an inoffensive Hindu symbol until the Nazis stole it and made it something menacing. The same is true of the word “race”, and I would expect someone as smart and experienced as Viktor Orban to know that, and avoid the verbal pothole he stepped into.
If, as Orbán pointed out, this is what the left themselves claimed, then he is correct in not allowing the left to hijack the language. The left’s preordained attacks will end up bouncing off, consequently.
As for the swastika (the name is derived from the Sanskrit word for “well-being” IIRC), it goes far beyond Hinduism and as a pagan symbol has always carried connotations of the occult and demonic.
“The globalists can all go to hell, I have come to Texas.”
Yes. Welcome.
Orban is a posing contrarian who just tethered his country to fascist Russia with a massive energy deal. He’s obviously using us to increase his anti-EU bonafides for his electorate. Not impressed here. Duda, OTOH, walks the walk. Fights the EU. Fights fascist Russia. Building the best army in Europe, etc. He’s the European American conservatives should be looking to.
There’s another Polish leader I really like, I hope one day he will be PM
Dominik Tarczyński
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccOp0I8ZPho
We have some distinguished black and brown conservatives in the USA and UK, and we want more. So it is best to stay far away from using the toxic “race” word. I used to think Viktor Orban was too smart to make this mistake, but apparently not.
Actually the right facing swastika which was perverted by the Nazis used to mean good luck and well-being. It was the left facing symbol called sauwastika that had the occult and demonic connotations, but that’s not what the Nazis used.
Yes, from the perspectives of Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism et al. My perspective was from the Biblical (Deuteronomy 32:17, 1 Corinthians 10:20).
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