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1 posted on 08/31/2022 1:27:17 AM PDT by Cathi
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IBTSRS


2 posted on 08/31/2022 1:31:27 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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If women would just give themselves freely to their potential rapists, there would be no rape. Problem solved!

Same twisted logic!

Regards,

3 posted on 08/31/2022 1:40:17 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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from the Wikipedia NATO page / history section

“In the 1990s, the organization extended its activities into political and humanitarian situations that had not formerly been NATO concerns.”

In other words, NATO SHOULD have been disbanded or majorly reduced after the cold war ended since there was no longer a purpose for it anymore.
but government never shrinks....it just bloats until it eventually explodes.


4 posted on 08/31/2022 1:40:33 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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So says the convicted child sex predator.


5 posted on 08/31/2022 1:46:21 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Cut-and-Paste Cathi is a big fan of convicted sex offenders.


6 posted on 08/31/2022 1:47:58 AM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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NATO is the impetus but it’s about the vast pro Russian majority in the east and ukrop treatment of them for years


7 posted on 08/31/2022 1:48:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (Lawyers guns and money……I lived it…. Now I'm old…. I have wonderful children)
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Such monumental ignorance is likely to get us into a far bigger war.

Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it. Those who DO study history are doomed to stand by watching helplessly while everyone else repeats it.

Just after the WW2 Tehran Conference, Stalin said to a journalist, (roughly translated):

"It's high time the Slavic race was in charge of Europe."

Putin is channeling Stalin, and probably delights in it.

Never forget that modern-day Russian culture is heavily derived from the Mongol hordes who over-ran Russia in the 13th century. They never really left.

Anyone who has read of or experienced the ten or so years after the end of WW2 knows this. Trieste, Greece, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, all bear witness.

13 posted on 08/31/2022 3:20:49 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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NATO expanded East 16 years ago. The new members were former Warsaw pact Soviet satellites, who have good reason to fear Russia after 40 years of occupation.

So the idea that NATO “provoked” the war is bull manure.


18 posted on 08/31/2022 3:57:56 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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It’s true.


21 posted on 08/31/2022 4:15:35 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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aaahhh yes... skim the surface and be a hero. but if what has transpired below the surface, did not occur, well the results would have been different as well... ie... ukraines money laundering service for the US...


25 posted on 08/31/2022 4:35:44 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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If there were no children to molest, there’s be no criminal record for Scott Ritter.


27 posted on 08/31/2022 4:58:27 AM PDT by ScottinVA (To hell with Putin; to hell with Russia)
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29 posted on 08/31/2022 5:32:59 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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Is it too much to expect Europe to take care of their own defense, including paying for it?


38 posted on 08/31/2022 6:14:22 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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BS meter 1-10 is 12.

I think I somewhat understand where some of these people are coming from.

After being scarred by the neocon extreme interventionism of the past 30+ years, they have rightfully rejected it and adopted an extreme reaction. That reaction being extreme isolationism.

Ideological purity is difficult. Both can be taken too far, and the world is complicated. The people must learn to not be manipulated into supporting every hairbrained idea the government produces. Unfortunately, the public remains steadfast in the refusal to carefully observe what the US government is doing. The American people allowed themselves to get snookered into supporting Clinton’s, Dubya’s, and Obama’s multiple interventions.

Here are my policy dream positions:
-No permanent overseas US bases and conversion of them all to revolving training grounds for all partners.
-Full support and defense help for functional democratic countries only.
-Selling arms to ONLY those countries who need defense and not used for attacks.
-Weighing carefully any support or help to countries threatened with invasion or attack.
-In the event of trouble in the Middle East, limit “help” to public discussion of what’s wrong with BOTH sides.
-Condemnation of attempts to attack or invade territory of another.
-In the event of catastrophe in unstable parts of world, limit “help” to escaping civilians and food/water/medicine.
-Above all, NO overthrows, NO elective invasions, NO attacks unless attacked first, and NO using military to nation-build.

These are all dreams, but they don’t have to be. Foreign policy has never been something most Americans cared about. It’s time for that to change.


46 posted on 08/31/2022 8:23:52 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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The truth is we've implemented a foreign policy for at least 15 years that was designed to harm Russia and overthrow Putin.

The goal was to turn Russia into what Ukraine has been -- a country that globalists could get a stronghold in and work with corrupt oligarchs to make a fortune.

48 posted on 08/31/2022 9:06:53 AM PDT by Kazan
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Scott Ritter said back in March that this war in Ukraine had *stopped* NATO expansion that had not yet occurred - now he’s saying the NATO expansion is what caused it to begin with.

Quite a propagandist.


57 posted on 08/31/2022 7:56:34 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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intelslava claiming that what we've seen around Kherson so far was the tip of a spear:

"Intel Slava Z
Forwarded from
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According to Ukrop Legitimny channel this was the setup for Kherson offensive, wave 1-2 got completely destroyed.

- the first wave: strike groups of special forces. Approximate 5.000 people

- the second wave: immediately after the first, regular units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which went through the spring campaign and have good combat experience. Approximate participation 10.000 people

- the third and fourth wave: it is underway now, and consists of additional special forces and Armed Forces of Ukraine with combat experience of at least four months. Approximate number of participants: 10.000

- the fifth wave, now being brought from the rear: it consists of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the territorial defense. Approximate number: 20.000....." <

Ritter and others are saying that there aren't any real soldiers left in Ukraine as of now. This figures to be a titanic massacre which, hopefully, might bring about the end of the Kiev/Zelensky regime and, also hopefully, nato and the Biden regime along with it.

61 posted on 09/05/2022 2:34:35 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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