[Deaf Smith]

There is a big difference in predictions and forecasting.

One has to do with reading old bones & tea leaves, the other has to do with models of previous history of specific factors.

[Pollard]

One has to do with reading old bones & tea leaves

My neighbor split open persimmon seeds for three years in a row and found spoon patterns. Spoon = shovel = lots of snow. We hardly got any snow.

My other neighbor remarked on how many acorns there were one Fall and said it means long cold Winter. We had a short warm Winter.