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Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov blames Russian commander Alexander Lapin for loss in Lyman (Update: Lapin responds to Kadyrov)
Euro Weekly News ^ | 10/1/2022 | Matthew Roscoe

Posted on 10/03/2022 3:05:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

CHECHEN leader Ramzan Kadyrov has immediately taken to Telegram to blame Russian commander Alexander Lapin for Russia’s retreat in Lyman, Ukraine.

Ramzan Kadyrov blamed Colonel General Oleksandr Lapin, who commanded the defence of this section of the front, for the loss of Lyman.

“I have always said: there is nothing better than the truth, however bitter and hurtful, but the truth,” he said.

“It is the only way to move forward. That is why I cannot keep quiet about what happened in Krasny Lyman.”

He added: “The commander of the Central Military District Colonel-General Alexander Lapin was in charge of the defence of this sector. The same Lapin who received the star of Hero of Russia for the capture of Lysychansk, although de facto he was nowhere near there.

“Lapin was also subordinated to the troops of the Western Military District.

“The Colonel-General had deployed mobilized fighters from the LNR and other units at all the Lyman direction but had not provided them with the necessary communication, interaction and ammunition supply.

“A fortnight ago Major-General Akhmat, my dear brother Apty Alaudinov, informed me personally that our fighters might become easy targets. I, in turn, informed Valery Gerasimov, head of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, of the danger.

“But the general assured me that he did not doubt Lapin’s military talent and did not consider a retreat in Krasnoe Lyman and its vicinity possible.”

Kadyrov, who praised Vladimir Putin and the Russian Federation for acquiring four new territories, continued: “A week later, Lapin moves his headquarters to Starobelsk, a hundred kilometres away from his subordinates, while he himself takes refuge in Luhansk.

“How is it possible to manage units promptly when they are 150 kilometres away? Due to a lack of basic military logistics,

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1 posted on 10/03/2022 3:05:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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2 posted on 10/03/2022 3:06:25 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

But I though it was all a strategically planned withdrawal, right? They both seem quite publicly upset by it if that is really the case....


3 posted on 10/03/2022 3:19:30 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

It also show Putin’s lack of discipline over his generals by letting the cat fights take place in public.


4 posted on 10/03/2022 3:22:43 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Is he threatening a third Chechen war? Is he criticizing Putin?

Russian command arrangements and message discipline seem to be going to pot. I can understand Kadyrov, who is at least semi-independent and indulged. He is at least de facto a head of state. But the general, supposedly under discipline, is talking out of school.

Matthew 8:9

” For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.”


5 posted on 10/03/2022 3:23:43 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Both seem to indicate something bad happened for the Russian cause in Lyman...


6 posted on 10/03/2022 3:26:38 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: buwaya

Diversity is Putin’s strength.


7 posted on 10/03/2022 3:26:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“How is it possible to manage units promptly when they are 150 kilometres away? Due to a lack of basic military logistics”

Just for fun, how far away from combat operations has Kadyrov been for the last three months?


8 posted on 10/03/2022 3:36:17 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: marktwain

Yes. The Russian army—military—cannot win the invasion for Russia. They’re overextended and do not have the ability to keep territory when pressed. Lack of supplies, bad decision making, and an enemy who is well armed and determined to drive them out.

Maybe things will change for them. But right now, things are really bad.


9 posted on 10/03/2022 3:38:03 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: marcusmaximus

Anyone taking bets on how long before the Chechen general turns on Putin and takes advantage of Russias weakness?


10 posted on 10/03/2022 3:50:26 PM PDT by McGavin999 (A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore………)
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To: McGavin999
I do not want to see Russia dismantled.

I want to see Ukraine as a strong buffer state between the rest of Europe and Russia.

We need Russia to be strong enough to resist Chinese imperialism from the East, a much greater threat to Russia than NATO.

11 posted on 10/03/2022 3:54:07 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marcusmaximus

Russia has all the resources to be a strong country, if they adopt even the minimal capitalism of China.


12 posted on 10/03/2022 3:55:23 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marcusmaximus

Someone should hand these two machetes and hack each other to death in a cage match.


13 posted on 10/03/2022 4:02:03 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: marcusmaximus
 
 
As the saying goes, a fish rots from the head. If it's this dysfunctional in the administrative team, imagine how it is at the company level.
 
 

14 posted on 10/03/2022 4:18:13 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
 
 
Due to a lack of basic military logistics, today we have abandoned several settlements and a large area of territory.
 
A very interesting admission right there. Yeah, they can bomb, rocket & shell the heck out of everything to rubble, but unless they can march in and competently hold and occupy, they can't own it, it's not theirs. With the amount of dysfunction they appear to be manifesting, don't see it happening, not with the troops they are apparently about to field. Down to "Here's your rifle Igor, go get'em!" That's not a strategy for success.
 
 

15 posted on 10/03/2022 4:28:01 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: marktwain

I don’t either but Putin is making mistake after mistake. Someone needs to give him a way out before it’s too late.


16 posted on 10/03/2022 4:32:56 PM PDT by McGavin999 (A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore………)
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To: marktwain
"I do not want to see Russia dismantled."

Imagine a Russia without nuclear weapons.

17 posted on 10/03/2022 4:50:41 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: lapsus calami

Trying to fix a screwed up logistical system and culture in the middle of a war would be extraordinarily difficult.


18 posted on 10/03/2022 5:15:29 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: familyop

The question would then be could Russia without nukes resist the Chinese? Russia might have to decide between allying and truly normalizing with the West (which doesn’t really want or need to subjugate Russia, it just wants Russia to behave no worse than, say, Brazil does in S. America), or being mostly eaten by China.

Tough choice. The former requires Russia to reject a good part of its historical mindset, the latter loses it most of its territory.


19 posted on 10/03/2022 7:13:26 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: marcusmaximus

I guess he doesn’t know Putin has been personally commanding the troops in the field.


20 posted on 10/03/2022 9:28:37 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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