Keep an eye on the Prigozhin-Kadyrov alliance...
Posted on 10/06/2022 9:02:04 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
ideos have emerged on social media that appeared to show infighting among Russia's elite, with mobilized Russians allegedly complaining about accommodation conditions before being sent to fight in Ukraine.
On Wednesday, the pro-Russian Telegram channel Rybar published a video that appeared to show Russian soldiers standing in front of a passenger train. The clip has been geolocated to Russia's Belgorod region near the Ukraine border.
"We are now in the Belgorod region. There are about 500 of us. Material support, monetary allowance...Absolutely nothing!" the cameraman states, panning the video to his fellow soldiers. The majority have their face covered with masks.
The man filming the video says that the men, conscripted as part of Russian President Vladimir Putin's September 21 partial mobilization decree, don't know where they are being deployed.
"There is absolutely zero preparation," he says, while another man in the video adds: "We eat what we buy for ourselves."
Analyzing the clip, journalists have suggested that the video could be staged by Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Russian mercenary outfit, the Wagner Group, over his dissatisfaction with how the Ukraine war is being handled.
Journalist Mark Krutov of Radio Liberty noted that some men appear to be wearing badges that bear the Wagner Group symbol.
Before Krutov geolocated the clip, he tweeted: "wherever it's filmed it starts to smell like a staged story now a little bit for me."
"The video was posted on and being reposted by pro-Wagner channels, which matches Prigozhin's 'Fire Shojgu' narrative...Also some Wagner patches are visible on it. Nearly all 'poor mobiks' (mobilized men) on the video wear balaclavas," Krutov wrote.
"(I think patches are just a kind of Prigozhin's 'Easter egg' here). The guy also makes a weird claim they've all (he says 500 people) got COVID on that train," he added.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
Keep an eye on the Prigozhin-Kadyrov alliance...
You tell your John Sherman, Department of Defense
Chief Information Officer to back off propagandizing FreeRepublic.
For people other than the propogandists to reference:
Propagandists in our DoD and you know they’re operating at many sites, not just Facebook and Twitter, like here as you’ll notice when you view their profiles “in forum.”
Excerpt:
“The takedowns in recent years by Twitter and Facebook of more than 150 bogus personas and media sites created in the United States was disclosed last month by internet researchers Graphika and the Stanford Internet Observatory. While the researchers did not attribute the sham accounts to the U.S. military, two officials familiar with the matter said that U.S. Central Command is among those whose activities are facing scrutiny. Like others interviewed for this report, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military operations.“
And another:
“”One diplomat put it this way: “Generally speaking, we shouldn’t be employing the same kind of tactics that our adversaries are using because the bottom line is we have the moral high ground. We are a society that is built on a certain set of values. We promote those values around the world and when we use tactics like those, it just undermines our argument about who we are.””
Pentagon opens sweeping review of clandestine psychological operations
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/19/pentagon-psychological-operations-facebook-twitter/
The Amazon Post? LOL!
Even the name Newsweek is fake; they publish 47 times a year.
Yes, the propaganda op seems quite standardized and in a consistent format from a few regular posters here, as if straight out of a AI program or manual.
I call it the “disembodied, one-off event, promoted as a disconnected chain evidence of some main propaganda theme.” Putin is about to fall, Russia is collapsing.
It works very well on the casual consumer of news (ie. most Americans), if it is not analyzed closely
These themes rise, then disappear.
For example - for a few weeks we had constant “evidence” of “Putin dying” - Putin is bloated, Putin’s legs are shaking, etc...
Then its gone.
New report claims Vladimir Putin’s health is failing as the Russian President complains of ‘aching pains’ ahead of crucial meetings
Vladimir Putin’s health has again come into focus, with a new report claiming the Russian President is in severe “aching pain” and it’s weighing on the decisions he makes.
Putin at 70: isolated, irrational and fearing for his health
There seems little for the president to celebrate on Friday as Russia’s elite dares to ask: is he losing control?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-at-seventy-age-birthday-health-state-of-mind-j0ffh37z7
We should re-enable the Smith-Mundt Act which was amended during the Obama years to allow the US to propagandize it’s own people.
Your pathetic attempts to discredit any information that is critical of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is tiresome. The video was published on the pro-Russian Telegram channel Rybar. Has the DoD infiltrated Rybar too? 🙄
That's pretty incredible considering you guys consider every bit of negative news about the war, even from sources you ordinarily like if its for Covid19 (like the Daily Mail), to be part of some kind of conspiracy--even purely factual news about the defeat of Russian forces.
So, literally, the "consistent format" you are referring to is: "posts I do not like," otherwise you're just bulllshitting.
I find this hard to believe. Putin is many things but being out of control seems unlikely.
"He's Lost Control!"
“is tiresome.”
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Perhaps you should simply go back to sleep with all of your sleeper cell Nazis.
There is “news” and there is “narrative.”
News can be factually supported, fits into a wider context and set of truths, and eventually achieves public recognition and approaches non-falsifiability. Its an inductive process, very similar to the scientific process.
Certainly, there are actual events in this war, which are favorable and negative to both Ukraine and Russia. Did Russia lose a town called Lymon? It seems certain they did.
Then there is “narrative.” This is building the conclusion in advance. Disembodied events are then randomly applied to it non-systemic way.
A perfect example is climate change. The goal: convince everyone the world is undergoing specifically human-caused global heating. Completely disconnected and unverifiable news events are applied to it. Polar bears are drowning. The red wine harvest is bad. We have more hurricanes! We have fewer hurricanes! Regardless, its all “global warming.”
I see the exact same thing with Russia/Ukraine and it is over-the-top.
You tell your John Sherman, Department of Defense
Chief Information Officer to back off propagandizing FreeRepublic.
For people other than the propogandists to reference:
Propagandists in our DoD and you know they’re operating at many sites, not just Facebook and Twitter, like here as you’ll notice when you view their profiles “in forum.”
Excerpt:
“The takedowns in recent years by Twitter and Facebook of more than 150 bogus personas and media sites created in the United States was disclosed last month by internet researchers Graphika and the Stanford Internet Observatory. While the researchers did not attribute the sham accounts to the U.S. military, two officials familiar with the matter said that U.S. Central Command is among those whose activities are facing scrutiny. Like others interviewed for this report, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military operations.“
And another:
“”One diplomat put it this way: “Generally speaking, we shouldn’t be employing the same kind of tactics that our adversaries are using because the bottom line is we have the moral high ground. We are a society that is built on a certain set of values. We promote those values around the world and when we use tactics like those, it just undermines our argument about who we are.””
Pentagon opens sweeping review of clandestine psychological operations
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/19/pentagon-psychological-operations-facebook-twitter/
Nice attempt at a riposte, but you are still avoiding the question about the source of the video.
Yes, we see lots of canned responses, I notice some broken English occasionally and there are certain times of day that the “regulars” seem to spam the forum in tandem, overwhelming the news feed with their garbage.
And they get apoplectic when we point this out. They even try bullying, by slinging silly insults from their keyboards to keep people from pointing out their tactics.
Which only encourages me to keep on exposing them.
Bkmk
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