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Tarmac Aerosave Scraps Its 1st Airbus A380 In Teruel
Simple Flying ^ | 22 Oct 2022 | Tom Boon

Posted on 10/23/2022 7:14:12 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: rellic

I sometimes think lots of tax money alone is enough to make things take more tax money and time. *bada*boom*kisk*


21 posted on 10/23/2022 8:33:58 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Don Corleone

—”Millions of parts all provided by the low bidder. What could go wrong?”

A very popular phrase in the military.

That said a serious manufacturer will have design specs that will knock your socks off.
And aviation is intensely serious.

And along came Chinese crap.
I worked a bit with a guy that had been a QC engineer for Dell in China.
He said if there is any for them to cut a corner, they will.

American and Chinese crooks faking certificates and now we have a counterfeit anything.

With an aircraft or a bridge or ... it is murder.
But Charlie Chan didn’t know the bolts were not X-ray grade so slap his hand...

IMO the Chinese are quite capable manufacturers but sent the reject crap offshore.


22 posted on 10/23/2022 8:53:15 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Morning,

Here’s a hedge...

When HP built the first major building on Page Mill, Dave made sure the architecture would accommodate a supermarket in case the company didn’t ‘fly’.


23 posted on 10/23/2022 9:31:05 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: DUMBGRUNT

the cost per seat per mile was just too high. And the number of airports that could handle them was limited.


24 posted on 10/23/2022 4:06:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: sasquatch

Morning.

All is good around here.


25 posted on 10/24/2022 1:35:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (A Veteran you know needs to hear from you today. Even if it's just a: Hey, how you doing?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

[IMO the Chinese are quite capable manufacturers but sent the reject crap offshore.]


The opposite. I read somewhere they actually have outlets that sell allegedly export grade goods. Buyers from the West are big on inspections of random lots of purchased items. Whereas Chinese buyers can be suborned or aren’t held to any standards.


26 posted on 10/25/2022 8:55:22 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Hi.

Does anyone know know why Delta decommissioned its Boeing 77s? I believe in 2020?

5.56mm


27 posted on 10/25/2022 8:58:43 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go)
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To: M Kehoe

https://simpleflying.com/delta-2022-boeing-777-replacements/#:~:text=Delta%20Air%20Lines%20flew%20a,those%20birds%20into%20the%20sunset.


28 posted on 10/25/2022 10:20:00 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Thank you.

5.56mm


29 posted on 10/25/2022 10:34:29 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Basically it was the wrong solution...

There are only so many routes that can justify a 500-800 seat plane.. and to support this plane requires specialization at airports... length or runways and loading and unloading gates etc.

Its a fine aircraft in terms of doing the job it was built to do... but there are only so many routes and locations that can justify it... I am hard pressed to think of a major aircraft that only had a 12 year production run like this in recent memory.

Airbus took a bath on the 380.. it did finally get its sale price above its manufacturing price around 2015, so jets sold after that actually weren’t losing money per sale on the actual cost of production and deliver of the plane, but it never had any chance of making back the $25 BILLION IN R&D spent to design and bring the thing to market.

I still to this day wonder how much politicians forced the 380 program to exist vs business decisions. Seemed from the start the wrong gamble and against the direction the industry was going... but since government funded, pressured to go big and flashy was probably huge.


30 posted on 10/25/2022 10:43:25 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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