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To: nickcarraway
just saying.....we did not see this level of "ptsd" after WW2....nor the Korean war....

what is so special about these later wars?

and I'll answer my own question....money.....

you can't tell me that my Marine brother who fought on the ground during Nam didn't have trauma except he went home and went to school, got married, and lived successfully.(until agent orange got him)

tell people that they can get money for saying they are having anxiety, and best believe they will conjure it up...

not to say that some may truely be traumatized, but guess what, so did all the guys in WW2....

again, why didn't we see all these WW2 guys collecting ptsd money.....

maybe they were stronger men back then.

3 posted on 12/06/2022 1:25:45 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

Sadly, I can say PTSD is not something easily confirmed by testing. Nor is hearing loss and unspecified back pain.

Yes, I think several people I know claimed this.

It’s interesting they also have the ability to keep working, earning a salary, while 100% disabled, yet, able to put up homes, drive around, etc., but I don’t know what evidence is needed, and they have been before review boards, so it’s apparently all legit.


4 posted on 12/06/2022 1:42:44 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: cherry
I guess you have never got up at 2 AM because you were afraid to go back to sleep and have the same dreams ...again.

I have never asked for money from the VA, I got out with 0% disability. I considered it a dishonor to claim anything when I have met others missing limbs, eyes, jaws and their sanity. They earned it.

5 posted on 12/06/2022 1:58:23 PM PST by pfflier
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To: cherry
we did not see this level of "ptsd" after WW2....nor the Korean war....

Oh yes, there was. We didn't have the name PTSD and they didn't want to talk about it. The term Shell Shock was coined in WWI.

The divorce rates of returning veterans spiked.

But there is some reference to it in some movies and old radio shows. The Best Years of Our Lives was best picture for 1946. Also, see Beyond Glory, Twelve O'clock High. The most interesting is Let There Be Light, a documentary by John Houston he made while in the Army. The movie ask the famous director to make a documentary about Shell Shock or Psychoneurosis, which they called it then.

When he finished the movie, the Army freaked out and banned it. It wasn't released until the 1980s. In the movie, they claim that 20% of soldiers had it.

6 posted on 12/06/2022 2:49:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: cherry

again, why didn’t we see all these WW2 guys collecting ptsd money.....

maybe they were stronger men back then.
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They had come out of the Depression.

Men were manly to get through that.

My Dad and his local friends were WWII Vets. Never talked about WWII. Could not listen to “White Christmas”. Spooked by loud noises upon returning home.

Pretty much the whole USA was involved and sacrificed in WWII. Not just Special Ops on the news, while welfare raged at home.

So I think they had a ptsd, (maybe called shell shock), and worked through it. Same as the Depression, got to work, eat, care for the family.

Don’t think they had Psychiatrists with grants to invent ‘ptsd, and develop methods and drugs for ptsd. In fact now ptsd infects many citizens who have some sort of rough patch.

That’s the differences I see versus our Vets today.


7 posted on 12/06/2022 4:53:13 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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