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Petraeus 'Divorced From Reality' Vis-à-Vis Ukraine: Col. MacGregor
Trends Journal ^ | Dec 26 | Gerald Celente

Posted on 12/26/2022 1:40:34 AM PST by RandFan

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To: RandFan

He is spot on about Pertraeus. Petraeus is owned by \Deep State and has become largly a clown they dreag out to do their bidding..


21 posted on 12/26/2022 4:19:24 AM PST by dforest
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To: srmanuel

>Ukraine will be back in the stone age.

Ukrainians are doing all right now. They need ammo and so far the western world has sent it to them.

For them the alternative is mass graves and torture chambers. If we don’t send them ammo they will fight with what they have. They’ll even fight with rocks.

God will never forgive us if we have spare ammo and let them fight with rocks!


22 posted on 12/26/2022 4:23:32 AM PST by Krosan
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To: srmanuel

There is a YouTube channel called perun which is pretty good. His analysis is sober and dives into lots of economics as well as weapon systems, logistics, and battlefield. Two in particular on corruption and lies are very interesting and give a different take as to why the Russian military that on paper should have swept through Ukraine like hot knife through butter but are scrambling to hold onto what they have instead Their Air Force is mostly MIA and he discusses reasons for this, their logistics are terrible he covers this, their weapon systems and tactics have been mild at best and he gives a take on them somewhat different than most


23 posted on 12/26/2022 4:25:55 AM PST by blitz128
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To: Krosan

Your post is so magnificently inane, I’m not sure where to begin, but I’ll try.

Freedom loving people? What freedom loving people are you referring to? Zelensky? Banning opposition parties, religious groups and nationalizing television stations is freedom loving? The West? Embracing lockdowns, vaccine mandates and criminalizing political dissent is freedom loving?

Your absolutely correct that Zelensky doesn’t want American soldiers to die, he’d prefer we all die; he’s called on NATO to conduct ‘preemptive strikes’ on Russia.

I could go on and on...

Please ask your globo-deep state buddies if there’s a part time opening for a propagandist; I’d be interested, I’m sure it pays well.


24 posted on 12/26/2022 4:28:36 AM PST by RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus
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To: dforest

Activities in retirement:
[Wiki excerpts]

Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. L.P., a New York investment firm, hired Petraeus as chairman of the firm’s newly created KKR Global Institute in May 2013. Part of his work would support KKR’s investment teams and portfolio companies when studying new investments, especially in new locations.[221] In December 2014, Petraeus was named a partner at KKR and remains chairman of the KKR Global Institute.[222]

Petraeus joined the board of advisers of Team Rubicon on June 18, 2013.[223]

In 2015, Petraeus suggested the U.S. should arm members of the terror group Al-Nusra Front (an offshoot of Al-Qaeda) in Syria to fight ISIS.[229]

On June 10, 2016, Petraeus and Mark Kelly, a retired NASA astronaut and later Senator from Arizona, announced the creation of the gun control group Veterans Coalition for Common Sense.[230]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus


25 posted on 12/26/2022 4:29:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Second Battle of Fallujah was no piece of cake.

We did not lose in Afgan, Democrats gave away our victory just like they did in Vietnam.


26 posted on 12/26/2022 4:48:08 AM PST by jpsb
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To: buwaya

Yep. I’ve been watching/reassessing him


27 posted on 12/26/2022 4:48:09 AM PST by sauropod (2000 miles - Proof that Chrissie Hynde can sing the phone book and it sounds fantastic.)
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To: buwaya

His track record does not inspire confidence. He’s been wrong on just about everything.


28 posted on 12/26/2022 4:49:52 AM PST by jpsb
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he has not recently been in Russia/Ukraine to inspect the Russian army as it is today.

How long has it been since you inspected the russian military?

29 posted on 12/26/2022 4:55:13 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Krosan

Most recently he said russia would launch a massive counteroffensive no later than last week. Wrong. Again.


31 posted on 12/26/2022 5:04:42 AM PST by FreshPrince
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I have from the beginning taken the wait and see approach as time will tell what is really happening in Ukraine.

What I do know is the media in this country who has lied about Covid, the economy, the border, Trump/Russia collusion, etc,. In fact, lies about more things than they tell the truth about should not be believed when it comes to Ukraine.

David Patraeus has a long military career, so does Douglas Macgregor, so do a lot of people, the fact they differ so widely on their outlook for Ukraine tells me they don’t know much more than the average person on what’s going on.

Time will tell, right now anyone asserting they know what’s happening is giving their opinion and probably knows very little about what is really happening.


32 posted on 12/26/2022 5:06:24 AM PST by srmanuel
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The war will end then the GOP House stops funding it and that will happen early next year.


33 posted on 12/26/2022 5:06:25 AM PST by jpsb
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I’d like to believe that, but I have very little faith it will happen.


34 posted on 12/26/2022 5:07:37 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: buwaya

Well, we have not seen Ukraine stopping the invasion and kicking the Russians out, the war goes on... wars a very easy to get into and very difficult to end.


35 posted on 12/26/2022 5:08:09 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: Krosan

What about all the black Christians in Africa. We are doing nothing to help them? Why is Ukraine, the most corrupt country in Europe, more deserving then the good honest black Christians in Africa?


36 posted on 12/26/2022 5:10:11 AM PST by jpsb
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>> “Second Battle of Fallujah was no piece of cake.” <<

Nobody said it was. But we enjoyed 100% air, arty, EW and ISR dominance.

>> “We did not lose in Afgan, Democrats gave away our victory just like they did in Vietnam.” <<

Yeah, tell us all what “victory” in Vietnam or Afghanistan would look like. 100s of thousands of American GIs occupying Hanoi and Saigon and all points in between, 50 years later?

Ditto A-stan?


37 posted on 12/26/2022 5:12:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: buwaya
I find MacGregor unreliable in his assertions

I find it pretentious when foreigners feel the need to advise Americans on their politics.

38 posted on 12/26/2022 5:13:47 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: srmanuel

The House is now in the hands of conservatives. Democrats get us into wars, conservatives get us out of wars. The US a zero national interests in the Ukraine. None, so there is absolutely no reason to be involved. The House will end our involvement.


39 posted on 12/26/2022 5:18:17 AM PST by jpsb
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To: RandFan

We’ve learned from the Twitter files that deep state FBI and intelligence agents have been all over social media sites for years spreading propaganda. Pretty clear we’ve got them her on FR pushing the globe homo Ukraine narrative. We all see who pushes this on a daily basis.


40 posted on 12/26/2022 5:21:49 AM PST by circlecity
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