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To: DugwayDuke

Myocarditis is far more likely to be caused by COVID than by the vaccine.


Possibly, but why don’t we know? Why not study this and put the data out there for people to look at and consider?

There are two competing hypotheses and perhaps neither can be disproven about myocarditis, but you cannot deny either the “Covid” hypothesis or the “Vax injury” hypothesis at this point.

I am certain that at the very least certain batches of the vaccine caused a lot of harm. I knew two people who died within 24 hours of vaccination. One of them had certainly had Covid prior to the vaccine so perhaps that is muddled, but the other was uncertain and was not sick if they did. Shot - dead in 24 hours.

I want answers. By any prior standard of pharmaceutical safety these shots should NOT be on the market and no immunity should be granted. The “emergency” is over. Take away the immunity and see if Pfizer and Moderna keep these on the market. If they are safe, why the continued immunity when they are recommending that we take them like an influenza vaccine?

They were in a rush to make these things and even the VAERS data shows spikes with certain lots of the vaccines. We also know that injection can influence this if not intramuscular.

We have been lied to FRiend. Just admit it. Some people had good intentions but I ran out of patience for them a long time ago. Young people and healthy adults should not be vaccinated. People with high risk factors for Covid have the same risks for other common diseases..... give them the data and let them make their own decision, but what we are witnessing is evil.


20 posted on 01/07/2023 5:03:15 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: volunbeer

DD (aka DA) - for one - will NEVER admit it.


26 posted on 01/07/2023 5:08:39 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: volunbeer

“Why not study this and put the data out there for people to look at and consider?”

You don’t consider the Dr’s video sufficient?


30 posted on 01/07/2023 5:11:24 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: volunbeer
We have been lied to FRiend. Just admit it.

"Admit it"?!? Oh, please. He's one of the ones who's been paid to do some of the lying.

31 posted on 01/07/2023 5:13:44 PM PST by DSH
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To: volunbeer; DugwayDuke; gas_dr
Possibly, but why don’t we know?

We won't get an examination by the media. A fully 75% of their advertising comes from pharma.

We won't get an examination by a Democrat administration or their corrupt DOJ. A huge portion of their campaign funding (as well as stock portfolios and under-the-table dealings) come from pharma.

We won't get an examination by the RINOs in congress. A huge portion of their campaign funding (as well as stock portfolios and under-the-table dealings) come from pharma.

Those who have asked for examinations -- including well-credentialed medical and research professionals -- are labeled crackpots by a successful disinformation campaign.

The common man can't ask for an examination, as we are -- to them -- merely bumpkins in flyover country who -- again to them -- should simply accept what big pharma offers without question or concern of ramifications. Many of their minions post their propaganda right here and on social media to help tamp down opinion.

So...

In the end...

Who will lead the examination?

48 posted on 01/07/2023 5:31:37 PM PST by Magnatron
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To: volunbeer

I disagree. There are several articles stating cocos causes myocarditis with supporting clinical evidence. There are several reputable publications (of which McCuklough is NOT credible. He is pulling the number straight out of his ass by penumbras and machinations) that in fact demonstrate some people get myocarditis. But every shown case is brief and self limited. There are not sequelae. We would have seen it. People now to prove a poor extrapolate vaccination to the dysrhythmia that hit the NFL player. They are apples and oranges especially with an obvious cause caught on hi def video

If people were really as sophisticated as they believe they are, they could ask the question they either proves or disproves the theory. I have asked that question and conducted now an extensive literature search on the same. There is no correlation between vaccination and what happened to the food ball player. Period. I am just waiting for someone to ask the right question. Dear Peter McCullough sniffed around it early Monday night but rescinded it immediately when he noted it would hurt his narrative.


86 posted on 01/07/2023 6:07:03 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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