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Strange unprecedented vortex spotted around the sun's north pole
Space.com ^ | 02/05/2023 | Tereza Pultarova published

Posted on 02/08/2023 8:11:16 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

“appears exactly at the 55 degree latitude around the sun’s polar crowns every 11 years”

What a coincidence. California alternates between drought and plentiful rain every 11 years.


21 posted on 02/08/2023 8:56:43 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Once you get people to believe that a plural pronoun is singular, they'll believe anything - nicollo)
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To: gr8eman

Come on, Man!...It’s all right there in the memo- “Trust the science!”


22 posted on 02/08/2023 9:01:00 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: gr8eman
Sorry. I mistyped. It should be 5000 years.

How Long Does It Take for Photons to Emerge From the Sun's Core to the Outside?

23 posted on 02/08/2023 9:02:38 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (You can never have enough clamps. Thanks Ben.)
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To: BenLurkin

poler vortex...


24 posted on 02/08/2023 9:14:37 AM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Don’t be scared, be prepared!!


25 posted on 02/08/2023 9:15:20 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: gr8eman

The core of Sol is where compressive forces are at their greatest, sufficient to produce and continuously sustain nuclear fusion. A fusion reaction that occurs at the very center of the sun produces protons that have to travel over 432,000 miles “as the crow flies” to reach the surface of the sun and race radially outward therefrom in the form of visible light. Admittedly the 500,000 year number seems unlikely but IIRC that’s how the math works out in terms of the immense density, “bouncing”, random directionality, and other mind-bending obstacles that any given photon so produced will face in its path toward freedom.


26 posted on 02/08/2023 9:21:52 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: gr8eman; Bloody Sam Roberts

Okay, 5,000 years. Be that way! LOL😉


27 posted on 02/08/2023 9:24:42 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: DannyTN

Forewarned is forearmed.

Do they get thundersnow on the sun?


28 posted on 02/08/2023 9:26:47 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

“a “hedgerow in the solar plasma”,”

Wait’ll you get a look at the hedgehogs...


29 posted on 02/08/2023 9:31:43 AM PST by chrisser (I lost my vaccine card in a tragic boating accident.)
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To: BenLurkin

I think with some common sense regulations and a progressive tax structure, we can probably stop this from happening again.


30 posted on 02/08/2023 9:32:26 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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“scientists have no clue what caused it”

Well, it’s caused by Birkeland currents.


31 posted on 02/08/2023 9:37:32 AM PST by Boogieman
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32 posted on 02/08/2023 9:39:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Climate Change or a new COVID variant if not those a Russian conspiracy or perhaps a Chinese plot.

There are plenty of MSM talking points that could be added to this story.


33 posted on 02/08/2023 11:04:38 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: one guy in new jersey
Probably no crows flying in the interior of the sun. But I've never been there.

Something similar is going on inside all the other stars in the galaxy, and in all the stars in billions of other galaxies. Hard to calculate how many photons that adds up to. More than the number of dollars in the national debt, at any rate.

34 posted on 02/08/2023 11:41:46 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Who knew there was a number bigger than that? LOL


35 posted on 02/08/2023 11:49:21 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Verginius Rufus

Hard for us to calculate, for sure.

Safe to say, though, that someone is “in the know” on that score.

The ultimate BigWig.


36 posted on 02/08/2023 11:54:51 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

That’s 2.3 seconds (432,000/186,000) at the speed of light in a vacuum (supposedly) A photon prob. takes less that 10 seconds to reach the sun’s surface if that’s true!


37 posted on 02/08/2023 12:23:45 PM PST by gr8eman (Abortion! It's just a murderous ghoul thing!)
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To: gr8eman; Bloody Sam Roberts

The Random Walk

Imagine there’s a guy so drunk that he needs to hold on to a light post to stand up. He wants to get to the next light post, just 10 steps away, but he’s so drunk that he can’t walk in a straight line. Heck, he’s so drunk that after he takes one step his next step could be in any other direction. That’s what physicists and mathematicians call a “drunkard’s walk” or “random walk” problem. The question is, how long will it take that guy to get from one lamppost to the next? The answer is that if his starting point and ending point are separated by 10 steps, it will take him — on average — 100 steps to get there — that’s 10 squared. That’s the same situation a gamma ray faces in the core of the sun.

Assumptions

When you’re trying to solve a random-walk problem, the most important thing you need to know is how big the steps are. There are two problems with figuring that out for a gamma ray photon in the sun. First, conditions are not the same all throughout the sun, so the distance between gamma ray “crashes” with other particles changes. Second, no one has ever visited the center of the sun, so some assumptions need to be made, anyway. There are all sorts of reasonable assumptions, varying from one-tenth of a millimeter to about a centimeter. The choice of this distance has a big impact on the time calculation.

How Long it Takes

The radius of the sun is 700,000 kilometers, which is 7 trillion “steps” if each step is a tenth of a millimeter, and 70 billion steps if each step is 1 centimeter. From the drunkard’s-walk problem, you know that the average number of steps it takes to get a certain distance is equal to the square of the number of steps it would take to go in a straight line. So it would take 49 trillion trillion steps of 0.1 millimeter and 490 billion trillion steps of 1 centimeter each. The time it takes to travel those steps is the total distance divided by the speed of light. So, if you think photons only travel 0.1 millimeters between crashes, it will take more than half a million years for the photon to escape the sun. If you think it’s about a centimeter, then it will take about 5,000 years for the photon to get outside the sun.


38 posted on 02/08/2023 12:51:03 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Thundersnow, I doubt it. But this could cause a sharknado.


39 posted on 02/08/2023 1:52:45 PM PST by DannyTN
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I'll see your 'nader and raise you one 'caner!
40 posted on 02/08/2023 1:57:32 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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