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To: coalminersson

My pet peeve. The Brocollis control the use of Bond, except for Casino Royale and Thunderball. So when they make a movie they call it “official 25” etc. But that leave out the farcical Casino Royale with Niven and Sellers and the Connery starring Never Say never. So there are 27 Bond films in the can, not 25 and the next one will be 28 no matter who produces it.

Media: stop letting the Brocollis miscount the number of movies.

Also, in 1954 Casino Royale appeared as a live play on American TV and starred Barry Nelson and Peter Lorre.


9 posted on 02/15/2023 3:40:41 PM PST by coalminersson
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To: coalminersson

That irritates me too by not including Casino Royale (1967) and Never Say Never Say Never Again.


27 posted on 02/15/2023 3:55:14 PM PST by moviefan8 (You know, when you boil life down, it's funny just how little you need, isn't it? - Rip Wheeler)
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To: coalminersson
I think Barbara Brocolli (or her and Wilson) owns 50% of the Bond film & TV rights. The other 50% is owned by United Artists, or whoever now owns UA.

A couple of decades ago, UA (or their then current owner) bought all rights to Never Say Never Again and the 1967 Casino Royale from Columbia, so now all of Bond's film & TV rights are owned by Brocolli & UA. That's why they were able to make the Craig Casino Royale.

The Fleming estate still owns the literary rights, and has been licensing new Bond books for a while now.

I don't consider the 1967 Casion Royale to be a real Bond film, though Never Say Never Again qualifies.

44 posted on 02/15/2023 4:28:12 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: coalminersson

I’m pretty sure they have even those now. Kevin McClory died, no? Either he or his family sold the rights to Thunderball/Never Say Never Again/Warhead 2000, 2001, etc. (that one never got made).

Then they reacquired the rights to Casino Royale and made a serious movie out of it.


with some suspecting the films would have to return to Bond’s childhood

Way back when there was a cartoon called “James Bond Jr.” — something like an early version of “Spy Kids.”

I don’t think it would satisfy most Bond fans but it would be preferable to some of the other crap I’ve heard.


64 posted on 02/15/2023 6:48:52 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: coalminersson

I stopped counting those silly movies long ago.


82 posted on 02/16/2023 5:30:07 AM PST by GingisK
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