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How ‘Progressive Discipline’ Turned Ontario Schools into a Battleground
National Review via Yahoo ^ | March 2, 2023 | Ari Blaff

Posted on 03/02/2023 10:04:36 AM PST by grundle

A 200-pound Ontario middle schooler was getting ready to pummel his classmate when a group of teachers escorted him to an office where they hoped to calm him down — instead, he proceeded to ram into the two adults, a man and a woman, for the better part of an hour, leaving them shaken and bruised. He never faced any consequences.

“You should have seen their bruises. The guy’s back is totally messed up. The girl still has arm issues,” Margaret, a teacher with over a decade of experience in Ontario’s public schools, told National Review.

Worried about the potential repercussions, the teachers who were assaulted were not able to physically restrain the student, nor did senior school administrators expel him.

“All he got was an in-school suspension. His mom came to pick him up, asked if he wanted dumplings, and they left. There were no consequences,” Margaret said.

The veteran teacher explained that the administration’s indifference to staff members being physically assaulted stemmed from the student’s historical behavior: “That’s his baseline.” Under the school district’s present approach to discipline, if aggressive and dangerous behavior is typical for a student, then only behavior that exceeds the norm is dealt with.

The effort to prioritize the emotional experience of students over the need to maintain order had predictable consequences: Whereas only 7 percent of teachers in Ontario schools were the victims of physical abuse in 2005, by 2017 that number had spiked to 54 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: arth; assault; canada; middleschool; nationalrepuke; ontario

1 posted on 03/02/2023 10:04:36 AM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Public schools were a good idea about 1900.

Their time has come and gone—the leftist zombies are finishing them off....


2 posted on 03/02/2023 10:07:05 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: grundle

Hey article, now do America.


3 posted on 03/02/2023 10:07:54 AM PST by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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To: grundle

Castration. Them send him home.


4 posted on 03/02/2023 10:11:38 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: grundle

An assaulted person could have pressed criminal charges.

I know of no school in the USA that would allow a bully to beat a fellow student without consequence.


5 posted on 03/02/2023 10:14:28 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: grundle

Arm the teachers. When these punks start filling body bags, they’ll get the point.


6 posted on 03/02/2023 10:18:04 AM PST by Loyalist
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To: grundle
There's "woke"
Then, there's "Canadian woke."
7 posted on 03/02/2023 10:18:30 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: toddausauras

I taught for decades in an American urban high school. Fights in the hallways and disruptions in the classrooms, all not uncommon stuff.

When I first started, administrators talked about discipline, and they usually tried to follow through.
Then it became “discipline with dignity”. All talk, no action.
Now it’s “equity education”. No action against disruptive students. Action against any teacher who complains about it.

Boy, am I happy I’m out of that mess.


8 posted on 03/02/2023 10:20:26 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: cgbg
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

— Tenth plank of communism
There was only one purpose for instituting public schools. They never were a good idea.
9 posted on 03/02/2023 10:20:30 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: grundle

The middle school I went to back in the early 1980s once had (just that bit before my time there) a very tough character who was the PE teacher and the stories I heard of him were kind of like hearing about King Kong in the jungle. You valued your health, you certainly didn’t give this person any trouble. It seems that kids these days never ever grew up with that sort of thing.


10 posted on 03/02/2023 10:20:31 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: Olog-hai

The small local school-house was a net positive in its day.

The curriculum was demanding and taught basic reading and math.

Parents had control over all aspects of what was taught there.

The teacher had the authority to maintain order.

It worked.

Today—it is child abuse.


11 posted on 03/02/2023 10:26:01 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

It was always headed towards what it is today. Particularly when government control was instituted.


12 posted on 03/02/2023 10:27:08 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Brian Griffin

They can rape fellow students in VA and the father of the victim gets arrested.


13 posted on 03/02/2023 10:28:31 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Brian Griffin

> I know of no school in the USA that would allow a bully to beat a fellow student without consequence. <

Oh my goodness. That happens every single day, in urban schools at least. As I noted in my post #8, I taught for decades at an urban public high school. Yes, you are mostly right about the old days. Back then, most (but not all) administrators would take action.

No longer. It just isn’t done, in my experience. Today’s administrators are all about PR, and all about making their own records look good. Administrators with low suspensions rates get bonuses and promotions. Those who try to do their jobs and suspend troublemakers will find themselves sidelined and demoted.

Then there are the state laws that make it difficult to suspend special ed students. In my state, such kids can only be suspended 10 times in a school year (I think that’s the number). So even a good principal will hesitate suspending a bully special ed kid. You’ve got to save those days for when the kid brings a gun to school, sells drugs, or something like that.

(Sorry for the rant.)


14 posted on 03/02/2023 10:32:33 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Went to high school back in the 60’s. Our principal was a chap that stood about 6’4” and went about 240. Poor behavior or disrespect was frowned upon. Occasionally he would throw a miscreant up against a locker as a reminder. We had very few problems.


15 posted on 03/02/2023 10:41:19 AM PST by technically right
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To: grundle

My SO works in an elementary school in the Midwest. The examples in this article almost entirely mirror what is going on in her school (in a rich, upper class district no less).


16 posted on 03/02/2023 10:43:32 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Brian Griffin

You are very naive.


17 posted on 03/02/2023 10:49:38 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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To: grundle

Call the cops and file charges.

Dare the idiot administrators to punish you.

L


18 posted on 03/02/2023 10:51:58 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: grundle

Maybe they’ll crack down when enough leftists get beaten and bullied.


19 posted on 03/02/2023 1:28:33 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Socon-Econ
It is a one-way bias.

If a leftist is beat by someone who is not a member of a protected class, there are consequences.

20 posted on 03/02/2023 1:41:46 PM PST by marktwain
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