Posted on 03/09/2023 8:25:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Sports Banana
STEM schools, trade schools, and, if you must study humanities, a great books program. Avoid leftwing indoctrination camps at all cost.
California colleges are different than most states, there are too many kids and not enough seats, except at Merced. In other states, the non Flagships have falling enrollments. Michigan is a good example. UMichigan and Michigan State are selective but you can still get in to Central Michigan for around $20K, even out of state. Add Illinois and New Jersey which send more kids out of state due to their high tuition rates for their residents.
There are kids applying to the same 300 or so colleges that are driving down admission rates. Kids are applying to 15-20 colleges because those known colleges are becoming more difficult to get into, but they can still only attend one. Test optional allows kids who knew they couldn’t get in before now apply.
Then you have southern schools becoming more popular with kids in the Northeast because they’re cheaper than privates. Clemson, UofSC, UTennessee and Auburn have become more selective since Covid.
Finally, there are many lesser known schools that are struggling with enrollment. For the past decade 5-10 small private colleges have closed each year. I expect that number to grow over the next few years.
“I am 100% encouraging my kids to enter the trades”
Plumbers will retire with a good nest egg. Many college students will end up retired without a pot to pee in, if you get my drift.
I work at a community college and our numbers are down. The traditional two year prep for transfer to a four year institution has dropped significantly. On the other hand our tech classes seem to be holding steady in terms of enrollment.
The online classes are nothing but busy work, you don’t learn anything. The online eight week classes are the worst of the lot. You write a lot of papers and have little to no actual instruction. The students and instructors are pushing for a traditional twelve or sixteen week in the classroom or a hybrid style classroom/online course but administration loves the mini-sessions because it’s lots of revenue bam-bam-bam class wise, but you are producing mediocrity with no practical learning or hands on experience.
The old guard four year prep instructors are furious that the college is adjusting to the fact the students want to learn a trade in a year or year and a half and then go to work. We are also having trouble retaining instructors in the trade/medical programs because they can make more money in the private sector.
A co-worker of mine’s cousin went to eighteen months of community college welding classes, passed and certified and his first year out of college was making around $60K-$75K a year. That is what the students want.
Thanks for the inside information. So, now, I understand why so many courses are online today.
One of the main reasons young people go to college is to interact with their peers. When they attend class in person, they meet people who share the same interests, which makes them more interested and excited about their majors. As you pointed out, online courses have very little interaction.
When all the courses went online during the lockdown, the classes weren’t as enjoyable. Now, many courses at both the CC and university levels still are only available online, so students interact with a computer screen, and they hate it. Many college-age kids have dropped out and/or opted for a different career track. Many online courses do cover a lot of material, but sitting at home in front of a computer for hours can be depressing and frustrating.
And how many of “the kids that get it” are white guys who have figured out the hate racket and want no part of it and like the author said, have no debt hanging over their heads.
White young men may have figured out that most colleges hate and demean them.
In the trades they are treated with respect.
American Colleges and Universities are opting for foreign students and foothold American residency because they pay far more in tuition.
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Parents of foreign students pay because living far away, they haven’t realized universities became circuses.
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