Posted on 04/09/2023 12:48:35 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
> Speer, however, insisted that the slave labourers be given adequate food and working conditions so that they could work efficiently. <
That’s a defense of Speer? That he wanted slave laborers keep alive, not for humanitarian reasons but so they could continue to work efficiently?
Please take a look at HenpeckedCon‘s post #39. And then there’s this:
Letter proves Speer knew of Holocaust plan
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/mar/13/secondworldwar.kateconnolly
“ Your family member gets killed and a government body decides what’s just punishment?”
That’s the moral theme of “Judgement at Nuremburg.” Do you hang the worst of them, sentence others to life in prison (most were let out very early, by 1950) and let Germany rebuild and make sure they don’t do it again? Or do you wipe out everybody who had any role in it no matter how small and create a hostile Germany ready to ally with the communists? Those were tough moral questions. It was handled really well in the movie.
He knew of the plan. He was not in charge of it. Speers advocated the use of slaves. He preferred a more humane treatment for the stated reasons. Former slaves testified on his behalf. I really can’t tell you more other than the court declined to execute him. Take that up with the court, not me.
That is generally how it is done in a civilization.
*cough*Soros*cough*
RIP.
Thanks for the reply. I find the whole Albert Speer thing to be quite intriguing. I have read all of his books. Speer seems to be a civil and reasonable man. And he does not try to explain away (or just ignore) the evils of Nazism. He instead discusses them. In their memoirs, many retired German generals did not do that.
Yet Speer worked diligently for Hitler until almost the very end. And he almost certainly knew about the Holocaust and about the horrible slave conditions in the factories. Plus I’ve got the feeling that he’s a bit of a manipulator.
If I were a Nuremberg judge, I suppose I would have flipped a coin. Heads, Speer gets executed. Tails, it’s life imprisonment. And I would have hoped for tails.
He was Jewish. He was a graduate of Harvard Law School. He was a sergeant at the end of WWII, but was brought back as a war crimes prosecutor as a full colonel.
From his interview with the Washington Post quoted in Wikipedia:
“Someone who was not there could never really grasp how unreal the situation was ... I once saw DPs [displaced persons] beat an SS man and then strap him to the steel gurney of a crematorium. They slid him in the oven, turned on the heat and took him back out. Beat him again, and put him back in until he was burnt alive. I did nothing to stop it. I suppose I could have brandished my weapon or shot in the air, but I was not inclined to do so. Does that make me an accomplice to murder?[9] You know how I got witness statements? I’d go into a village where, say, an American pilot had parachuted and been beaten to death and line everyone one up against the wall. Then I’d say, “Anyone who lies will be shot on the spot.” It never occurred to me that statements taken under duress would be invalid.”
*Do you hang the worst of them, sentence others to life in prison (most were let out very early, by 1950) and let Germany rebuild and make sure they don’t do it again? Or do you wipe out everybody who had any role in it no matter how small and create a hostile Germany ready to ally with the communists?*
It’s easy. I’d hang them all. The Malmady fella got 10 years(life sentence). I’d go looking for him on my own. Once he’s disposed of the ‘hostiles’ can’t blame the governments. The Mossad kidnapped tat one in Argentina in ‘60. 15 years of freedom might have let the issue die down enough to do the right thing.
I hope that those that created the chinese virus and the deadly vaccines are hanged.
Bigger article here. I believe in vengeance. Never let a criminal get away.
I watched liberated concentration camp prisoners burn an SS guard alive - it taught me vengeance is NEVER the answer: The message the last surviving Nuremberg prosecutor Ben Ferencz had for the world before his death at the age of 103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11955237/Nuremberg-prosecutor-Ben-Ferencz-revealed-believed-vengeance-NEVER-answer.html
They were the Confederacy.
We both see it the same way.
The Soviets were actually partners with the Nazis in “making war”
Then they get to be one of the judging countries.
How messed up is that?
Change the uniform and location and you have Malmady.
Where German troops did the exact same thing for the same reason.
But they were hung for it.
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