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A 9-hour drive in Toyota's new electric SUV showed me how brutal EV road trips can be with the wrong car
msn ^ | 04/15/2023

Posted on 04/15/2023 9:07:38 AM PDT by devane617

Electric cars are quick, quiet, and kind to the planet, but limited range and lengthy charging times mean road trips aren't exactly their strong suit.

That's what I learned when I took Toyota's new bZ4X SUV from New York to Washington D.C. one weekend in early April. The 500-mile journey wasn't some epic coast-to-coast adventure, but rather the kind of long-haul drive someone might casually take a few times per year and not think twice about — if they're behind the wheel of a regular gas car.

Let's nerd out for just one moment to establish some basic concepts.

Every EV has a maximum charging rate, expressed in kilowatts (kW), that governs the amount of power it can accept from roadside fast chargers. For the bZ4X AWD I tested, that's an uncompetitive 100 kW. The higher an EV's rating, the faster you can hypothetically charge — so long as you find a charging plug whose rating is equal or greater.

But you don't always achieve that max charge rate due to the charger, the temperature of the battery, or, in my case, settings built into the vehicle itself. During my trip, the car never got close to 100 kW, leading to some excruciating charging times.

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"The nine-hour drive involved three hours of charging. "
1 posted on 04/15/2023 9:07:38 AM PDT by devane617
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The EV’s are probably fine for around town and very short trips. Also, they forgot to mention the cold weather aspect.


2 posted on 04/15/2023 9:09:45 AM PDT by Parley Baer (WI)
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The other issue that the EV Eloi are not considering is that they are sitting ducks for miscreants intent on assault, robbery and murder.

They're tied to that charging station for a long, predictable period of time - unlike a gas station, where you can be in and out in minutes.

3 posted on 04/15/2023 9:10:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Also, EV Chargers are easy to sabotage, and you know folks will do it, just for the heck of it.


4 posted on 04/15/2023 9:11:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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“The EV’s are probably fine for around town and very short trips.”

Yeah, like a 19 hole circuit at the local Country Club.

I’ll bet that Trump owns no shortage of EVs.


5 posted on 04/15/2023 9:14:49 AM PDT by Paladin2
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I’m holding out for teleportation portals.

They’re electric and if they do destabilize the space-time continuum, then we won’t have to worry about cow farts causing green house effects.


6 posted on 04/15/2023 9:15:25 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Wrong car..

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Like there’s a right one.


7 posted on 04/15/2023 9:16:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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They are commuting cars - and around-town cars - period.

Not meant for long trips or any other serious use.

Also, not better for the environment than ICE cars. In order to charge them, you need electricity obtained by coal, natural gas, or nuclear methods.

8 posted on 04/15/2023 9:17:14 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (5,016,040 Truth | 87,429,920 Twitter)
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They are NOT KIND to the PLANET!!! It takes CHILD LABOR to DIG UP THE MINERALS that are needed to do the battery!!


9 posted on 04/15/2023 9:17:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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But the electric future seems inevitable at this point, so we might as well learn to live with it.

Why is it inevitable?

I suspect that Toyota is mailing it in because they don't see current battery technology as a viable mainstream approach. Good for them.
10 posted on 04/15/2023 9:18:06 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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Electric cars are quick, quiet, and kind to the planet

They aren't actually "kind to the planet". They are polluting cars....The minerals and metals they mine..are straight on pollution. When they start on fire....they pollute the air and the ground.

11 posted on 04/15/2023 9:18:36 AM PDT by Osage Orange
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I’m betting that TRUMP has NO EV’s!!


12 posted on 04/15/2023 9:18:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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“...so just getting to 74% took a full 45 minutes of waiting around...”

That’s odd. I fill my battery...err gas tank...to 100% every single time.

Well, unless I’m short on cash and I’m treating the entire family to gas station sushi.


13 posted on 04/15/2023 9:19:16 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most importan.t election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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“Kind to the planet”…lie number one.


14 posted on 04/15/2023 9:19:54 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Articles like this make me SMILE every time I drive my gasoline car past a charging station and know that I don’t have to spend half of my living hours waiting for a few electrons to make it into the battery.

Also note that he was paying 40 cents per kwh to charge, roughly 4 TIMES what I pay for electricity at home.


15 posted on 04/15/2023 9:20:23 AM PDT by BobL
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I priced a Toyota Highlander LE Hybrid...over $55 grand.


16 posted on 04/15/2023 9:21:08 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most importan.t election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Ann Archy

Not only that, but where does the electricity come from to charge them — it sure isn’t wind farms or solar. Places like Calif can’t even keep from rolling brownouts and now want to stress their electrical grid even more by requiring electric cars. Dumb as dirt.


17 posted on 04/15/2023 9:21:49 AM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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Need a longer cord...

America - quit letting the stupid unconstitutional federal government tell you what and how to run your lives!!!!!!

18 posted on 04/15/2023 9:21:52 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: JimRed
Not so kind at all!

19 posted on 04/15/2023 9:22:12 AM PDT by budj
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The long road-trip is the Achilles heel of the EV. As I mentioned in another thread, I drove the long stretch of I-5 between Modesto, CA, and the Tehachapis a few days ago, and I counted no fewer than 3 Teslas in distress on the side of the road. Drivers miscalculate range. The vehicles themselves generate range estimates that prove overly optimistic, and drivers end up on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere with a dead battery. Who needs that kinda crap? If you’re using your EV for short commutes around local area and recharging every day, then okay this might work for you. But the venerable internal-combustion vehicle blows your EV away when it comes to road-trip convenience.


20 posted on 04/15/2023 9:22:41 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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