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Upstate NY Woman, 20, Fatally Shot By Homeowner After Turning Into Wrong Driveway, Sheriff Says
Breaking 9-1-1 ^ | April 17, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 04/18/2023 9:20:45 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: HYPOCRACY

Perhaps if I were a lesbian it might have in this case.


61 posted on 04/18/2023 11:23:00 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: jimtorr

Even in cases where these people most likely shouldn’t have shot these people, there is a good side...It’s got to be entering the thoughts of the criminal class, that the next target may be armed.


62 posted on 04/18/2023 11:27:51 AM PDT by Codeflier (My voting days are over. Let it burn...give the people what they want good and hard.)
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To: PatriotarchyQ

In no state does someone have a right to shoot someone else for trespassing. It is ludicrous to believe that because someone pulls into your driveway you can come out and kill them.


63 posted on 04/18/2023 11:28:15 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: PatriotarchyQ
Trespassing is a criminal offense. Ae you requesting that I be soft on crime or have my 2nd Amendment rights infringed?

Since when is entering a driveway, without opening a gate, or passing a "no trespassing" sign, trespassing? So in your "mind" you are privileged to execute anyone who pulls into your driveway?

You are either so dimwitted that the other QTips notice, or a troll.

Then again, perhaps I should embrace the power of "and"

64 posted on 04/18/2023 11:30:47 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: jimwatx; PatriotarchyQ
I would like to submit to the conversation that there is such a thing as a suburban driveway and there is a rural country so called driveway.

When I was soon to start first grade, my family moved to a farm that had a driveway that was identified on the county land plats as an old carriage lane right-of-way that had never been paved or maintained for one hundred and fifty years.   From the road it was several hundred yards down the lane, over a hill and then there was a turn off to get to our house.   Strangers who arrived there were never on the up and up.

65 posted on 04/18/2023 11:31:52 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: MeganC

Yeah, I agree. Too simple

But the communist have their story line, or they at least can make one up.


66 posted on 04/18/2023 11:35:04 AM PDT by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOW) )
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To: MeganC

Yep, Was he on his porch with a gun just waiting for a car to pull in? The timing is weird.


67 posted on 04/18/2023 11:39:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: Red Badger

Will the racists who showed up here trying to blame the 16 year old shot twice by a homeowner for ringing his doorbell show up and blame this girl too?


68 posted on 04/18/2023 11:42:39 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Will the racists who showed up here trying to blame the 16 year old shot twice by a homeowner for ringing his doorbell show up and blame this girl too?

Apples and Oranges, can't compare the two even if both are homeowner error.

69 posted on 04/18/2023 11:44:11 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Hattie
My guess is the guy was drunk. Came out and shot. That’s why he won’t talk to the cops.

That is is my guess also. At 65 years old dementia or mental illness could be a contributing factor. I listened to a few minutes of the video. The shooting was way out in the sticks with sparse cell phone coverage..

70 posted on 04/18/2023 11:45:28 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: jocon307

How the ______ do you know what they did or did not do. There does not seem to be any information and yet we are getting a bunch of screamers with deranged lunatic screeches.


71 posted on 04/18/2023 11:48:38 AM PDT by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOW) )
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To: Red Badger

Years ago a former coworker shot and killed a man for poaching on his property. The man was trying to flee in his vehicle when he was shot. The former coworker was charged and convicted. I don’t remember the charge.


72 posted on 04/18/2023 12:02:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Probably manslaughter......................


73 posted on 04/18/2023 12:03:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Assuming there is not more to the story, I wish gun owners would use better discretion. Shooting thru doors or out your window is hardly “self-defense.” Everytime some knucklehead kills some innocent person like this, it hurts the Second Amendment and our cause. Ugh.


74 posted on 04/18/2023 12:19:36 PM PDT by bort
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To: higgmeister

“a suburban driveway and there is a rural country so called driveway.”

Absolutely. And if a rural driveway is posted “Private Drive” and/or “No Trespassing” you better not go down there unless you absolutely have permission and business there.


75 posted on 04/18/2023 12:23:13 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: dirtymac

What further info do you expect to come out that could justify these 2 killings this week? It was just a couple of cowardly trigger happy idiots afraid of their own shadow shooting down innocent people for no good reason. They both deserve prison and I expect that is exactly what they will get. Like I said earlier the reason we get more gun laws is because of idiots like this. One thing these threads are good for is flushing out the nutjobs on FR.


76 posted on 04/18/2023 12:24:01 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: WalkerinSC

Sadly, there have been a few cases of kids shot to death while trick-or-treating.


77 posted on 04/18/2023 12:25:46 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Boogieman; PatriotarchyQ

We live on a rural highway not far from town. Across from us was our Granny’s fruit stand which people would coast into or use as a turnaround spot. They’d also turn into our driveway and ask to use our phone.

If we shot at every stranger who knocked on our door we’d have serial killer like numbers.
Times have changed but as long as I can see their hands and their friends stay in the car, one hand will be on the doornob(with foot braced at the door) and my other hand with my pistol,creary to use.

Haven’t shot anyone yet.


78 posted on 04/18/2023 12:41:17 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin.)
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To: higgmeister
"there is such a thing as a suburban driveway and there is a rural country so called driveway."

I would add a 3rd category: driveways that lead to homes in the woods. Some neighborhoods look like forests with mailboxes. You can only see each house if you pull up to its driveway. Who wants to risk driving up that long driveway to a house, only to find out you're at the wrong address? I once drove my kids up and down a road for 20 minutes because I wasn't sure which house was their friend's house. Every home on that road was set back in the woods with no address numbers out front. When their friends saw us and stopped our car, I explained in these exact words: "I'm sorry, but I didn't want to pull into the wrong drive and get us all shot." They understood.

I was half-joking. But, sad stories like this one remind us that getting shot while pulling into the wrong driveway is a very real possibility.

79 posted on 04/18/2023 12:41:17 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Unless the people in the vehicle were aiming guns or firing at the house, I see no way this is justifiable.


80 posted on 04/18/2023 12:47:58 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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