Notice that McVeigh never named John Doe II.
That tells you all you need to know about his version of events.
Terry Nichols is still kicking, well kicking as much as he can for 23 hours a day confined to his 12’ x 7 cell at the Supermax prison.
Pacing back and forth each day in that cell, eating only the gruel that is slid into his cell each day for the last 25 or so years, and he has nothing to say.