Posted on 05/29/2023 3:05:00 PM PDT by Morgana
Not new. Has been happening for a very long time
So ... justice. I’m comfortable with that.
I’ve heard of inmates falling down stairs and getting banged up after which the accompanying guards swore they had slipped.
That has happened in WV when prisoners don’t hear and respond well to commands.
“They are mercilessly tormented by the guards and other convicts.” The guards and convicts are fools who should feel embarrassed about becoming merciless. Here’s the rule for all seven billion people alive today: If no embarrassment now, then no mercy later.
Bummer. Sucks to be them.
So the State can say crime is down, plus cut the budget for corrections, plus . They dumped inmates during Covid, and didn't make them complete their court-ordered sentences. And in order to close that many facilities (6 last year), they had to bounce staff, and inmates throughout the rest of the system. And to do that, they had to demote staff to make room for more senior people who were being bounced, possibly lay off people with the least seniority. They also had to dump more inmates into the street to make room for the ones they had to move out of the facility's they were closing...basically musical chairs.
Not in the prisons I worked in. Today, most inmates don't care what you're doing time for. It's more about asserting power over the weaker inmates, and that is mostly done to get the extorted inmate to have them send money to their inmate account to use at the commissary. Inmates will push up on other inmates when they get a package, forcing the weaker inmate to give him all, or most of the package which would consist of food items. When I was working, extortion was the biggest problem, and inmates stealing things from other inmates.
They were still using cassette players back then, and when an inmate got one through the package room, it was engraved with his ID number. But it was nothing for someone to steal it and scrape the number off. The parts of stolen cassette players, were often used to make prison tattoo pens. They'd take the motor out and battery connection, attach it to the shell of a ballpoint pen, get a needle somewhere, or make one from a left over part, connect the whole thing together, so it would work like an electric tattoo pen...with the motor powering the needle up and down to puncture the skin to get the ink into the skin.
“They’re down to 48. Cuomo and Hochul closed 7.”
More than that! Hochul closed 6 in the last round of closures alone. And they are threatening us with more. Then they can’t figure out why they are having trouble recruiting COs. This place is run by idiots.
Nope. The only time they were removed from general population was if a credible threat was made against them, or they requested being put into protection. And whether they got that protection in the segregation unit, was determined by the Deputy Superintendent for Security. He didn't have to approve it. I don't know if things have changed with that in the 20 years I've been retired.
We had a big problem because as a medium security facility, we were limited in the number of cells in our two boxes. You'd lock a guy up for fighting, or because he was ordered to be locked up based on the punishment doled out from a misbehavior report, and most of the time, the inmate would be kicked out of the box in a week or less, back into general population, to make room for the newest troublemaker. It was like a revolving door.
About 5 years before I retired, the State constructed new buildings in some of the facilities that contained 200 cells for the most incorrigible inmates in the State's prisons. Ours was full. Everything was on camera. The cells had their own separate outside exercise area where the inmates would get their one hour of rec each day mandated by the courts.
It is what is known as "fiction".
If even half of what he says is true child killers would never walk out. Yet... they do.
I’ve watched a few law and crime shows in the last few years and it seems the new policy is to at least offer those convicted of sex crimes solitary confinement.
The jails hereabouts are keeping sex offenders and anyone with HIV/AID’s locked away from the general population.
I was at Mid-State Correctional Facility at that time. I'd started at Auburn in 1980. At one point, Mid-State and other facilities ended up housing double-bunked inmates in gyms for several months. I was already a permanent Sergeant in a permanent item by then. They brought in more officers, and promoted new Sergeants due to the increased population. Then when they debunked us, they bounced everybody back. The Sergeants that had been promoted to the temporary items specifically created for the double-bunked facilities, had to go back to their officer positions, and the new officers brought in were laid off. Thomas Coughlin was Commissioner back then. Mario Cuomo was Governor.
I had originally been in Tier I in the retirement system when I first started working for the county in Rochester in 1965. I left to have my kids, and when I went back to work for another county in the State, I was told my previous time in the system had been cancelled, and I was put in Tier 3. Around 2000, Carl McCall, who was the State Comptroller at the time, introduced a Bill to allow prior Tier I participants, to be readmitted to Tier I if they met a certain criteria. I qualified, so I was put back into Tier I prior to retiring. With Tier I, you didn't have to donate to the system. When I got back into Tier I, the State kept all the money I had donated all the years I was in Tier 3. They said it was to offset my retirement. When I took the job with Corrections, I went to Albany and made arrangements to buy the time I had previously invested in Tier I. Because I was able to get back into Tier I, I was allowed to retire 23 months early (one month for every year of service). But with the Tier I time I had previously bought back, I had almost 33 years of service that my pension was based on.
Convicts are like Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton, they have a terrible time walking up and down stairs. The problem effects mostly criminals.
So the question really is, when we start locking up all the presstitutes for presstitution, how should they be classified?. Personally I go with school shooter, a long painful death is what they deserve.
It sounds like prison sucks!
The problem is that in real life, most prisons don't have the cell space to accommodate every Tom, Dick or Harry who asked for protection. In my time, there had to be a credible threat in order to give them protective status. They wouldn't get it if they'd simply asked for it.
As far as AIDS goes. When it first showed up in the prisons in the early 80's, those inmates were initially put in quarantine in the facility infirmary. As time went on, they stopped doing that, and HIV infected inmates were back in general population. As staff, due to privacy laws that protected the convicts, for the most part, we weren't allowed to know which inmates were HIV positive...not even if you were transporting them outside the facility.
At my facility, the inmates in protection were housed in cells in the same block with problem inmates. In fact, the protective inmates were mostly used as porters on the unit. They'd sweep and mop, empty the garbage, serve the other inmates their meals through the drop-down door, hand out toilet paper and other supplies. They were locked into their cells when it was time for the other inmates to have their hour of rec. In the two actual boxes we had, they were on one floor only, and they had to be let out of their cells and taken to the enclosed rec area. Then brought back in once their hour was up. Same thing with showers. They had to be escorted from their cells to the shower room one at a time, then escorted back. As I've previously stated, I retired in 2003, so I've been out of the system for almost 20 years. Plenty of things have changed since then I'm sure...and not for the better.
“I’ve been out of the system for almost 20 years. Plenty of things have changed since then I’m sure...and not for the better.”
I expect you’re right about the not for the better part. With the demwits legalizing a lot of formerly deviant behavior and cutting sentences to nothing. The future looks dark indeed.
I worked in a prison in Georgia for a bit. The other inmates did NOT like the inmates that hurt women and children.
But, if an inmate said something happened, even after they get out, I wouldn’t believe it without proof.
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