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Russian Rhetoric Ahead of Attack Against Ukraine: Deny, Deflect, Mislead
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/02/russian-rhetoric-ahead-of-attack-against-ukraine-deny-deflect-mislead/ ^

Posted on 06/09/2023 5:00:05 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

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To: ransomnote

You don’t need to see factcheck.org.
Every single news outlets in the world will say the same thing anyway.
It’s not a big secret!


61 posted on 06/10/2023 4:48:03 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: nickfrost1

It is a Gulag nation.
No opposition to the deep-state in the Kremlin is allowed!
All Russian press MUST be pro Government… or else…


62 posted on 06/10/2023 4:51:03 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
Putin’s War against our allies.

When our allies our actual Nazis, I'm out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html - Nazi Symbols on Ukraine's Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History

63 posted on 06/10/2023 6:45:37 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Casey DeSantis? No thanks. I've already voted for too many Bushes.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh; All

Every army in the word has a few nutcases / Nazis.

Russias army has plenty of them. And Wagner even more so.

Do you also condemn Russia for using Nazis to fight in Ukraine?

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2022-05-25/ty-article/.premium/denazification-neo-nazi-groups-fighting-alongside-russian-forces-in-ukraine/00000180-fcb7-d338-a3d0-feb763f30000


64 posted on 06/10/2023 1:07:21 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

No opposition to the deep-state in the Kremlin is allowed!==

It is NOT true. In Russian DUMA there is 3 opposition parties as I may recall right away. Commie party, LDPR, Justice Party and few small I don’t remember. The ruling party is “United Russia”.

SO the opposition is NOT forbidden. BUT the foreign agents as opposition are forbiden. SO any political party or organization in Russia must NOT take a foreign money or be under influence from abroad.

That is a main grievance coming from West. Westerns can NOT influence Russia using money or otherwise. Also after West became hostile toward Russia. Russia forbade and kicked out all western-run organizations from her territory as unfriendly. Also rise up outcry from West even more.

But I don’t think all done isn’t well-deserved by West.


65 posted on 06/10/2023 1:15:38 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: USA-FRANCE

All Russian press MUST be pro Government… or else…==

It is NOT true either. But press must NOT take foreign money for its running or they become foreign agents. And will not close them right away BUT they must mark any their materials with logo “created by foreign agents”.

Also if press catched lying then they will be very fined as the outlet and a journalist. SO some switched to AD-antiAD method of propaganda. DO you what is it?

AD-AntiAD method is when they tell facts but do very selection of them. SO if they select only positive facts then they get AD propaganda. If negative then they get AntiAD propaganda.


66 posted on 06/10/2023 1:24:29 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: USA-FRANCE
Do you also condemn Russia for using Nazis to fight in Ukraine?

Nazi's bad. Now, let's see you condemn the Ukrainian Nazis. I'll wait.

67 posted on 06/10/2023 1:46:21 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Casey DeSantis? No thanks. I've already voted for too many Bushes.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Nazi, communist ans socialist organisations are authorized to exist in most countries and that includes USA, Russia, Ukraine. As long as they are not doing unlawful things they obviously can’t be condemned.

However, if any of those groups help a government (in this case the Kremlin) to invade another county and annexe its territories - that’s in direct violation of international law, and is causing massive destruction and death for the victim of that invasion. The victim here being obviously Ukraine.
Thus, in such a scenario only the agressive attacking Nazis and Commies should be condemned.

A defender has a right to self defense: such a defender can be of any color, religion, political affiliation, male or female.
No problem whatsoever.

I’m still waiting to know if you condemn the embedded Nazis, commies and “others” in the Russian army attacking and annexing Ukrainian regions by force - in violation to international law?


68 posted on 06/10/2023 4:28:59 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
Thus, in such a scenario only the agressive attacking Nazis and Commies should be condemned.

Did you just seriously say that only aggressive Nazis should be condemned?

So passive Nazis are okay?


69 posted on 06/10/2023 5:19:07 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Casey DeSantis? No thanks. I've already voted for too many Bushes.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I have answered you perfectly clearly.
But! You have chickened out answering MY question for the 3rd time now!!
It proves you don’t feel great about your « arguments ». You have none.

Again, every one in Ukraine has the right to defend their country and families from the invading embedded Nazis in the Russian Army!
You fully support Russian Nazis to invade Ukraine. Since you don’t want to condemn them!

Thus, I will clearly not condemn a few dozen Nazis embedded in the huge non Nazi Ukrainian army in their just counter-offensive to free their country from the Russian invaders! Take that to the bank.

What’s even worse… You are not only refusing to condemn the embedded Nazis in the Russian army of invasion, but you also fail to mention that your deep-state Kremlin friends are actually ALSO using their convicts (many of them murderers) freshly taken out of russian prisons to wage war against Ukraine! You support those murderers too apparently…

What I find astonishing is that you are defending the Nazis embedded in Russian army to attack Ukraine! But are condemning a few dozen Ukrainian Nazis defending their own country !

You are incoherent.


70 posted on 06/10/2023 6:25:49 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

I have not defended any army nor any member of any army. The United States and it’s tax dollars do not belong over there.


71 posted on 06/10/2023 7:31:34 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Casey DeSantis? No thanks. I've already voted for too many Bushes.)
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