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More than half of U.S. churches rely on armed members as part of security plan: Survey
washingtontimes.com ^ | June 7, 2023 | Mark A. Kellner

Posted on 06/10/2023 7:42:26 AM PDT by PROCON

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To: PROCON; SaveFerris

I’m keeping that under my hat.


41 posted on 06/10/2023 9:13:03 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: crusty old prospector

Does that also apply to the 2nd? Just asking


43 posted on 06/10/2023 9:51:13 AM PDT by Dartoid
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To: PROCON

Yup. I am a member of my church’s security team. Wisdom would say not to naively be a sitting duck. There have been plenty of examples enraged partisans acting out in a lethal manner.

I have abundant faith in my precious savior Jesus, but wisdom guides me to have fire extinguishers, auto insurance, homeowner’s insurance, etc.


44 posted on 06/10/2023 10:02:09 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: PROCON

Some of the other half rely on a sign posted at the entrance saying no guns allowed. Wonder which will be more effective?


45 posted on 06/10/2023 10:07:21 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (< < Wandering aimfully > >)
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To: PROCON

A few years ago CCTV in a church got video of a shooter who came in, walked to the front, and began shooting. In was played on the news for several days. The ones who were fastest “on the draw” were the little old ladies grabbing guns from their purses. It was great!!


46 posted on 06/10/2023 10:13:38 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: metmom

I don’t know if any in our congregation are armed, but I always hope there are some. Here in eastern TN, there’s a good chance.


47 posted on 06/10/2023 10:14:42 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: moovova

You actually go to a PCUSA church?

The synagogue of Satan?


48 posted on 06/10/2023 10:14:45 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I know for sure of some and suspect most of the rest of the congregation.


49 posted on 06/10/2023 10:24:37 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!)
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To: GingisK

Needs a pistol brace.


50 posted on 06/10/2023 10:26:14 AM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: PROCON

The most-cited option, reported by 57% of pastors, is to have “an intentional plan for an active shooter situation.” Having armed members was the second most-cited security option. Third was radio communications among security personnel (26%), followed by a no-firearms policy for church buildings (21%).


For some the plan is a no-firearms.

We have a plan! no firearms. That will fix it. But we have a plan, an intentional plan.


51 posted on 06/10/2023 10:31:38 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: P-Marlowe

My wife’s parents were founding members back in 45/46. The wife has been going there since she was born. I kinda got wrapped into the fold when we were married there. Our (grown) kids were married there. We’ll both probably have our ashes placed in the columbarium. My wife understands their faults, but it’s like a 2nd family to her. I’ve made my opinion known, but leaving just isn’t a battle I’m willing to have with her.


52 posted on 06/10/2023 10:33:20 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Dartoid

Half of the men have ear plugs in and the usual untucked shirt.


53 posted on 06/10/2023 10:37:53 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: GingisK
Oh man, does that bring back memories. A friend of mine back in high school and a fellow shooter had one of those in .221 Fireball. Funkiest thing I had handled up to that time. We did zap a couple of hogs with it, though.

I was only just getting into centerfires at this time; my brother already had a Rem 788 in .243 which was great fun. This is back in the late 70s on Florida's (still largely undeveloped at that time) gulf coast. Good times.

54 posted on 06/10/2023 12:43:35 PM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Larry Lucido
I had to double-check and make sure you weren't replying to #17.
55 posted on 06/10/2023 2:05:47 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: ExGeeEye

:)


56 posted on 06/10/2023 3:50:38 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: mware

“Go to Mass in a very heavy Italian neighborhood. Believe me, quite a few are carrying. Pity the fool who tries anything in our parish.”
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

But are you ‘born again’ ?


57 posted on 06/10/2023 4:05:26 PM PDT by InkStone (ONLY returning to Faith in God, thru Jesus Yeshua, will save America)
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To: moovova; xzins

https://calvarycch.org/

The antidote to woke.


58 posted on 06/10/2023 4:31:14 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: PROCON

We have active and retired LEOs in our services that are carrying. Our head of security (retired FBI) prefers that anyone not trained not carry, but I suspect there are many packing at any given service. Suspect a shooter wouldn’t last long.


59 posted on 06/10/2023 7:27:18 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: P-Marlowe; moovova

Outstanding expository preacher and commentator.


60 posted on 06/11/2023 3:26:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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