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To: Jonty30

I do not know for sure, as the Jewish people are very secretive and protective of all their various sects, and can only tell you what I have been taught by others. That there was a section of Jews, who went to Babylon, and became known as the Babylonian Jews, where they were corrupted and taught to follow non-Biblical scripture. These Jews wrote their own separate texts, originally the Babylonian Talmud, and eventually under the name Kabbalah, wherein they believe in a different supreme being that that of the Torah (Old Testament), known as ein sof.


22 posted on 06/13/2023 5:11:44 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: Golden Eagle

“...what I have been taught by others.”

May I ask if they were Torah-believing Jews, these others? We are not secretive. Feel free to ask me anything. Public or private.

Phinneous


24 posted on 06/13/2023 5:23:01 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: Golden Eagle

I can see that, since Babylon has been a factor in opposition to God since the time of Nimrod. I can see them being the root cause of all this.

Thank you. That helps clarify things.


25 posted on 06/13/2023 5:27:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Golden Eagle
I do not know for sure, as the Jewish people are very secretive and protective of all their various sects, and can only tell you what I have been taught by others. That there was a section of Jews, who went to Babylon, and became known as the Babylonian Jews, where they were corrupted and taught to follow non-Biblical scripture. These Jews wrote their own separate texts, originally the Babylonian Talmud, and eventually under the name Kabbalah, wherein they believe in a different supreme being that that of the Torah (Old Testament), known as ein sof.

You know nothing but how to fabricate fairy tales. I can only imagine who these "others" who taught you were. There were Jews exiled under duress to Babylon. In the year 423 BCE, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar lay siege to Israel and laid waste to the city of Jerusalem. His soldiers forcibly marched 10,000 of the most elite scholars and religious leaders to Babylon, to exile. The common folk were left under the rule of King Zedekiah. A rebellion against the rule of Nebuchadnezzar arose. The prophet Jeremiah begged the people to stop their rebellion, but they would not listen. Nebuchadnezzar set his soldiers upon them and crushed the rebellion, sending this remainder of the Jewish people also to Babylon. Jewish communities then arose in Babylon, with great scholarship in Torah.

The Five Books, plus Prophets and Writings make up the Written Torah, while the Oral Law is a legal commentary on the Written Torah, explaining how its commandments are to be carried out. Without such explanations, the observances specified in the Written Torah would be rather vague to be able to follow. The Oral Law is organized into sections of Jewish law making up the Mishna. The Mishna, plus the commentaries and discussions of it (the Gemara), together comprise the Talmud.

Kabbalah is not to be confused in the way you present. Kabbalah is the mystical aspect of Judaism, and is only to be studied by the finest scholars of the Torah. For the average Jew, the requirement is to observe G-d's delineated Mitzvos (precepts) to the best of their ability. In no way is there any belief in a "different Supreme Being"! That is pure blasphemy. The ein sof is a name given to G-d which refers to His aspect which is apart from the world He created; His pure essence. It is a term used by those who endeavor in the study of Kabbalah.

35 posted on 06/13/2023 8:15:31 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Golden Eagle
I do not know for sure, as the Jewish people are very secretive and protective of all their various sects, and can only tell you what I have been taught by others. That there was a section of Jews, who went to Babylon, and became known as the Babylonian Jews, where they were corrupted and taught to follow non-Biblical scripture. These Jews wrote their own separate texts, originally the Babylonian Talmud, and eventually under the name Kabbalah, wherein they believe in a different supreme being that that of the Torah (Old Testament), known as ein sof.
Stop using words you have no understanding of. The Babylonian Talmud is essentially an extension of the Jerusalem Talmud. The Talmud is the Oral Torah (explenation of laws and rituals) and discussion thereof.
The Kabalah wasn't written in Babylon and doesn't create an alternative diety.
44 posted on 06/23/2023 9:32:21 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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