All of them should be hanging by a rope for Treason.
Why I Oppose the Censure and Fine of Adam Schiff Congressman Tom McClintock - June 14, 2023 The Russia collusion hoax is the single dirtiest political trick in the history of American politics. We now know that it was entirely concocted by the Hillary Clinton campaign and ruthlessly used by partisans in the FBI to affect the 2016 election and then to undermine the legitimately elected president of the United States.
Mr. Schiff’s active role in promoting this hoax is disgraceful and damning.
But that is not the question before us. The question before us is whether a member of Congress should be censored and fined for speech, even outlandish speech, during the public policy debate. We have gone much too far down this road and it is time we turned back.
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The Russia collusion hoax is the single dirtiest political trick in the history of American politics. We now know that it was entirely concocted by the Hillary Clinton campaign and ruthlessly used by partisans in the FBI to affect the 2016 election and then to undermine the legitimately elected president of the United States.
Mr. Schiff’s active role in promoting this hoax is disgraceful and damning.
But that is not the question before us. The question before us is whether a member of Congress should be censored and fined for speech, even outlandish speech, during the public policy debate. We have gone much too far down this road and it is time we turned back.
The entire purpose of this Capitol is for the people’s representatives to freely debate the issues that affect the nation’s welfare. Except for the simple rules that promote civility in that debate, no one should be censored for errors of opinion or fact. The sole arbiters of these issues should be the constituents of the representatives, through the votes they cast in an election. The Founders reserved all legislative powers to the Congress because they wanted the issues of the day held up to every conceivable light and for every voice in the nation to be heard through their elected representatives. Unfettered freedom of speech is central to this process.
We need not fear false statements as long as freedom of speech allows them to be contested by the truth. How else are we to separate truth from falsehood but to expose one to the other? How else are we to separate folly from wisdom but to expose one to the other? How else are we to separate malice from the better angels of our nature but to expose one to the other?
There are only two ways to resolve the differences between us. There is reason and there is force. Americans have built a republic of reason and the central organ in that republic is the institution that we are entrusted to preserving. As Thomas Jefferson said long ago, “error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is free to combat it.”
Our oaths of office obligate us to defend this institution and to preserve the freedom to challenge each other in open debate. The elements in this resolution rely on coercion to punish egregious errors of opinion and fact. If we continue down this road, we will destroy this institution and the freedom of debate that is the most important tool we have to guide our way in an uncertain world.
We have already done so on too many occasions, and it needs to stop.
My opposition to this resolution in no way condones so many of Mr. Schiff’s statements and representations in this matter. On the contrary, I condemn them strongly. It is precisely because of the freedom of Congress — and indeed of every American — to debate without fear of persecution or punishment, that his veracity and judgment can be weighed in the balance and found wanting. There is no greater disgrace than that. We can only disgrace ourselves by denying to Mr. Schiff the freedom of speech and debate that protect us from the damage such people as he can do.
Somehow, it’s always the time to turn back the exact moment there’s an opportunity to punish the sick perverts (the ruling class) that caused the problem to begin with.
How about you first lay the hammer to the sick pervert Schiff, then you can start turning back. But that wouldn’t be very collegial, Tom, would it?
McClintock is a fool.
The Dems have impeached Trump twice and a third will be on the docket if Trump is reelected.
The original “kick me” sign was made for republicans.
If the person is doing it to subvert an election and get his political opponents locked up, yes. Throw them in jail and throw away the key.
they don't know how to fight....maybe they never intend to....
worthless wimps....
not one dime folks...not one dime...
I remember when McClintock was a Gung Ho! Charge type of guy. Now he is just a Charge by the hour type.
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All of them should be hanging by a rope for Treason.
The question before us is whether a member of Congress should be censored (sic) and fined for speech, even outlandish speech, during the public policy debate. We have gone much too far down this road and it is time we turned back. …Playing leftist First Amendment games are you, Tommy?
I like Tom McClintock. I’ve voted for the guy for various offices over the years. He’s a man of principle, and I have little doubt that his statement is sincere. But the problem is that Tom’s gentlemanly, principled approach is in no way reciprocated by the other side. It’s an anachronism in system in which the other side is engaged in total war, without principle, without honor, without mercy. Tom’s a bit like an 17th century knight who expects to meet the enemy on an agreed upon battlefield at an agreed upon time to fight according to agreed upon rules... while the Dems are like the Viet Cong engaged in no-holds-barred, guerrilla warfare
Tom is looking to make peace and preserve protocol while the Dems are looking to cage Trump like a dog for the rest of his life.
There just is no fight or self-respect in the GOP.
Sounds good but misses the point
The point isn’t free speech. The pint is the slanders and the damage Schitt has done to our system of representative governance and our free market of ideas.
He, along with the Islamonazi contingent in congress, hilLIARy, chris Christie, Romney, Bernie the Red, and more .. are corrosive to free speech —. Liberty cannot be sustained when public discourse is polluted by so much lying, defamation, deliberate distortion, and calls to subversion. They both hog and pollute the public square
It was fraud - not ‘debate’.
The question before us is whether a member of Congress should be censored and fined for speech, even outlandish speech, during the public policy debate. The entire purpose of this Capitol is for the people’s representatives to freely debate the issues that affect the nation’s welfare.
Members of Congress are already protected from what they say when in Congress. What Schiff did was purposefully and maliciously told damning lies about Republicans on the LAAP-dog media shows in order to impeach a President and influence an election.
Our oaths of office obligate us to defend this institution and to preserve the freedom to challenge each other in open debate.
Adam Schiff violated that oath numerously and egregiously. He should be expelled from Congress for that alone.
his veracity and judgment can be weighed in the balance and found wanting. There is no greater disgrace than that. We can only disgrace ourselves
Democrats have no sense of disgrace, shame, or honor. They prey on the false sense of reciprocated integrity of Republicans like McClintock.
-PJ
Republicans like this are why California is how it is.
CAGOP has ceded the field. They’re nowhere to be found, except for incidents like this.
Tom, you went full RINO on this one.
“errors of opinion or fact”
So attempting to remove a duly elected President of the USA under color of law is not treason? How stupid are you Tom?
There are Americans suffering in jail right now because of FOOLS like you! You should resign in disgrace but you won’t because people like would rather stick around and destroy what’s left of this once great country.
Tom McClintock is a stupid idiotic moron that has no business being in Congress. Being from New York, his thinking is typical loser liberal. This clown doesn’t realize that all his ‘good friends’ on the other side are laughing their asses off behind his back.
If the 5th district in California cannot do any better than Tom McClintock maybe they should stay home.
Talk about traitors, Tom McClintock is giving aid and comfort to the enemy and should be removed from office immediately!
I’m not familiar with Mr. McNutjob, but my first question is : how many pictures of him exist showing him on Epstein’s island, and, which Demokrat has them?
All the lying hearings that the media championed during Trump’s term plus the J6 hearings….. how’s that getting the truth out going? Missed opportunity to drive a stake into his heart and end his career! Congress will rue this missed opportunity!