Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Linux has nearly half of the desktop OS Linux market
The Register ^ | 18 July 2023 | Liam Proven

Posted on 07/18/2023 11:48:58 AM PDT by ShadowAce

Linux is now a little more than three 3 per cent of the desktop OS market, excluding the just over four per cent that is ChromeOS. Which is also Linux, but the wrong kind of Linux.

Web server statistics aggregator Statcounter announced last week that as of June 2023, Linux accounts for 3 per cent of desktop operating system use. However, this is still surpassed by ChromeOS, which means that desktop Linux has less than half of the desktop Linux market. If you feel that this is a bit weird, we agree with you.

Apparently, desktop Linux use measures 3.08 per cent, lagging about a quarter behind the usage of ChromeOS at 4.15 per cent. The problem with this is that ChromeOS is also a Linux distribution. It's a strange distro, non-standard in several ways, but current versions are built on the basis of Gentoo Linux, switching from an Ubuntu basis some years earlier.

We feel that a more accurate reckoning would be that Linux has now reached 7.23 per cent of Statcounter's usage figures, with ChromeOS at just over half: 57.4 per cent of the total. That seems like a more positive interpretation, one that Linux fans would be keen to make, but apparently not. By example, Linux advocacy site Linuxiac doesn't even mention ChromeOS in its write-up.

(As an aside, we suspect that quite a lot of the 3.23 per cent of OSes grouped under "Unknown" are probably also Linux users, just extra-paranoid ones who are obscuring their user-agent or something.)

Why shouldn't ChromeOS count? It's a Linux kernel and a Linux userland on top of the standard glibc C library. You can open a shell. If you want, you can run a Debian container and once you're in there install and run any Debian app; The Reg FOSS desk's experimental ChromeOS Flex machine runs Firefox and DOSemu.

If someone said "Android is not a Linux," that is defensible. You can't easily download it for free, and you can't run it on your own generic off-the-shelf computer. There have been a few experimental Android-based desktop OSes, but so far they've all flopped. On its native platform of smartphones and tablets, you can't run ordinary Linux apps on Android. It's a different sort of beast, even though technically it is a Linux inasmuch as it has a Linux kernel. But that's about it. It even has a weird, non-standard, non-GPL libc, "Bionic". By default and unless cracked, aside from the kernel, it has nothing else Linux-like about it. No shell, no desktop, no X11 or Wayland, nothing.

But that's not the case for ChromeOS. Underneath its unique GUI layer – which, unlike the one in macOS, is open source – it's a relatively standard Linux which can run standard Linux apps, out of the box, on both x86 and Arm. As such, it's the most successful desktop Linux there is.

It's not a typical Linux, because typical Linuxes are tools for nerdy hacker types, and that kind of OS will never, ever go mainstream unless someone forces people to use it. (As the government of the People's Republic of China is currently doing, but that is irrelevant to this. No Google inside the Great Firewall means no ChromeOS.)

ChromeOS is a desktop Linux with the Linuxiness stripped out. No choice about partitioning. No weird dual-boot mechanisms. No choice of desktops or package managers. No package manager!

But in every way that matters, it is mainstream, it is commercially successful, it's a polished end-user desktop OS, and it's a Linux.

So naturally the Forces of FOSS hate it. Of course they do. And how do they express that contempt? By saying it's not a True Linux.

Unix is like a religion: somehow, it encourages schisms and splinter sects, all of whom deny that the others are legitimate. It's almost a defining characteristic.

Ignoring all the commercial Unixes as they are effectively all dead now, and just looking at the FOSS ones, there are about a dozen rival sects: NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, DragonflyBSD, Minix, HURD and L4 and its various splinter groups, Plan 9 (9front, HarveyOS, Jeanne etc.), Inferno, xv6, v7/86, and of course, Linux and its thousand distributions.

Precisely two (2) Linux-based OSes have enjoyed large-scale commercial success as user-facing GUI systems for non-technical users. One has billions of users, the other a significant fraction of a billion. Both are from Google, and both share a defining attribute: the FOSS world rejects them.

ChromeOS comes in two flavors: there's ordinary ChromeOS, which you can only get by buying hardware built to run it (just like Apple's macOS), and there's ChromeOS Flex. Flex used to be called Neverware Cloudready. Neverware grew from Hexxeh's remixed and rebuilt ChromiumOS for ordinary PCs. Hexxeh made ChromeOS Flow, and that is the direct grandparent of ChromeOS Flex: both are ChromeOS for generic PC hardware. That is the significant angle. It shows that ChromeOS is just another Linux distro.

ChromeOS Flex is not like Android. It is a Linux in every way that matters. It's both small-f free and it's open source; there have been multiple remixes and rebuilds. It runs on generic kit with ordinary BIOS or UEFI, including with Secure Boot. It has a desktop, albeit its own unique one. You can pop a shell and install and run any arbitrary Linux app.

It looks like a Linux, it acts like a Linux, and it runs like a Linux. It is based on a generic Linux kernel, and it does Linuxy stuff with Linuxy binaries like any other desktop Linux.

It doesn't have systemd, but thank the great god Torvalds and his apostle St Cox that is not yet a requirement for a Linux distro. It has upstart, which was one of the most widespread init systems.

It is 100 percent on-brand for the Linux world that when one specific form of Linux-based OS goes mainstream, and is used by approximately half the human race, the True Believers of the Linux world disown it. Android is not a Linux. OK, they kind of have a point.

But ChromeOS, and especially ChromeOS Flex? Of course, all the advocates decry it as not being a True Linux, but then again, this just quickly descends into a "no true Scotsman" argument. As it is, the Fedora lot think Ubuntu is junk, and the Debianisti think everything else is junk, and the Arch folk think they are the true cutting edge, Slackware enthusiasts consider everyone else newbies, while the NixOS folk think all the rest are still in the stone age somewhere… ®


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: android; chromeos; linux
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

1 posted on 07/18/2023 11:48:58 AM PDT by ShadowAce
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: rdb3; JosephW; martin_fierro; Still Thinking; zeugma; Vinnie; ironman; Egon; raybbr; AFreeBird; ...

2 posted on 07/18/2023 11:49:16 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

Linux only here.

For pushing a decade.

Four boxes at two locations. [redundancy is not just a good idea....]


3 posted on 07/18/2023 11:54:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

Wow. I didn’t understand just how much of a minority I am in. I run desktop Linux on four machines at home, all some flavor of Ubuntu. I do not own a Windows machine, but my wife has one (I must support, sigh) and my work machine is also Wormdos.


4 posted on 07/18/2023 11:57:35 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Hold on, y'all, 2023 is going to be a ride you won't soon forget!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

I use Linux Mint as my personal desktop


5 posted on 07/18/2023 11:58:34 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce
Linux has nearly half of the desktop OS Linux market

Wouldn't it have 100 percent?

6 posted on 07/18/2023 11:59:24 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: backwoods-engineer

“Wow. I didn’t understand just how much of a minority I am in.”

Stands to reason... That would be about in line with the percentage of the wise and intelligent folks left in the world.


7 posted on 07/18/2023 12:01:31 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

I have too much time and money invested in Windows software, along with games that will not run in Linux. But I do dual boot all of my laptops except for one with Ubuntu Studio and Windows 10 Pro.

I also have a Ubuntu installation on a USB stick that will work with almost any computer that can boot from USB. It is a “persistent” installation meaning that whatever changes I make or work I save are ready to go in whatever host machine that I put it in.


8 posted on 07/18/2023 12:03:23 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Pearls Before Swine
Wouldn't it have 100 percent?

Well, if you could read the very first line of the article, it would explain that to you.

9 posted on 07/18/2023 12:04:49 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2
Linux only here.

For pushing a decade.

I've been Linux-only for over 20 years now.

10 posted on 07/18/2023 12:05:53 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

I understand that, but the headline is self-contradictory.


11 posted on 07/18/2023 12:10:47 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: taxcontrol

My workaday laptop is a dual SSD unit with Linux Mint installed on one and Windows-if-I-must installed on the other.


12 posted on 07/18/2023 12:11:29 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Pearls Before Swine

Understood. It’s meant to draw you in to see what the heck it’s talking about.


13 posted on 07/18/2023 12:13:55 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

Not an uncommon practice on the Internet to garner eyeballs and click counts.


14 posted on 07/18/2023 12:15:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Noumenon
My workaday laptop is a dual SSD unit

Same here--although mine has the OS on the smaller one and my /home on the larger one.

15 posted on 07/18/2023 12:20:37 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce
"Well, if you could read the very first line of the article..."

Hey now, we have rules around here.


16 posted on 07/18/2023 12:21:53 PM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Noumenon

I’d like to know more about that. Could you point me to a link where I could peruse and shop? Or did you customize your own? Have long awaited a departure from Windows, though I put up with it.


17 posted on 07/18/2023 12:24:33 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Seriously.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

Wouldn’t Linux have 100% of the Linux desktop market?


18 posted on 07/18/2023 12:38:26 PM PDT by GingisK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce
"But ChromeOS, and especially ChromeOS Flex? Of course, all the advocates decry it as not being a True Linux, but then again, this just quickly descends into a "no true Scotsman" argument. As it is, the Fedora lot think Ubuntu is junk, and the Debianisti think everything else is junk, and the Arch folk think they are the true cutting edge, Slackware enthusiasts consider everyone else newbies, while the NixOS folk think all the rest are still in the stone age somewhere, and the OpenSUSE gang sing, Deutschland über alles… ®

Fixed it for them.

19 posted on 07/18/2023 12:44:02 PM PDT by threefinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

I got Linux, but my machines are dual-boot. In addition, the newer versions of Linux now won’t browse my Windows network. I don’t know what happened, and I’ve tried several fixes, but it just won’t network. Still, I can do almost everything I need to do with Linux so that is my preferred O/S. Now if only I can get the blasted thing to network I’d be right as rain.


20 posted on 07/18/2023 12:46:50 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson