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Retired Navy pilot says unidentified aircraft ‘far superior’ to anything US could develop in next decade
Task & Purpose ^ | JEFF SCHOGOL

Posted on 07/29/2023 5:08:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Retired Navy Cmdr. David Fravor was commander of an F/A-18F Super Hornet squadron aboard the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz on Nov. 14, 2004, when he piloted one of two Super Hornets that came across a Tic Tac-shaped aircraft. At the time, the Nimitz was about 100 miles southwest of San Diego.

The crew of the two Super Hornets was told that unidentified objects had been observed for over two weeks, during which they had rapidly descended from 80,000 feet to 20,000 feet, loitered for several hours, and then returned to extremely high altitudes, Fravor told a House Oversight subcommittee on Wednesday.

“For those who don’t realize, above 80,000 feet is space,” Fravor said during Wednesday’s hearing on “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena,” or UAP, a recently coined term for unidentified objects in the air and underwater.

The Super Hornets’ pilots and weapon systems officers all saw a Tic Tac object moving abruptly above the ocean without any visible wings or propulsion system, Fravor said. As his plane got closer to the object, it quickly accelerated and disappeared. An air controller quickly told Fravor that the object had been detected 60 miles away less than a minute after the Super Hornets had lost contact with it.

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Assuming the Tic Tac was a physical object and not some sort of projection, no human pilot could survive the G-forces caused by how quickly it moved and maneuvered, retired Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich, who piloted the other Super Hornet involved in the incident, told Task & Purpose on Thursday.

With the known technology that the United States and its adversaries possess, an aircraft can either be as fast as a jet or as maneuverable as a helicopter – Dietrich said after the hearing.

“You can’t go supersonic and turn on a dime,” said Dietrich, who currently teaches engineering at the University of Colorado, Boulder. “The flight control surfaces, the propulsion required, they’re incompatible in our current configurations, in our current technology, with the fuel we have, with the materials that we have. And so, what we saw that day was something that was hovering like a helicopter and then intravenously accelerating, turning on a dime, not requiring the full turning radius that we require in our strike fighters or advanced jets. That’s why it was so confusing to us in the moment and seemed to defy what we know and expect to be laws of physics and limitations of capabilities.”

(Excerpt) Read more at taskandpurpose.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: alexdietrich; davidfravor; fringe; howdoesheknow; ohsomysteriouso; tictac; uap; ufo; ufos; whatshisclearance
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1 posted on 07/29/2023 5:08:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Assuming the Tic Tac was a physical object and not some sort of projection

Why should we make this assumption?

2 posted on 07/29/2023 5:12:39 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: RoosterRedux

My first inclination woukd be something like a chinese super drone.

To me extraterrestrials are like Bigfoot.....I’m gonna have to see it up close and personal to believe it.

However, if they are real, informing the public at large would undoubtedly cause world wide mass hysteria.


3 posted on 07/29/2023 5:14:13 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

All it took was health officials, Covid, and the media to create worldwide mass hysteria. No bigfoot or UFOs needed.


4 posted on 07/29/2023 5:17:46 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Seriously.)
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To: marktwain
Why should we make this assumption?

Good question.

Because this object returned a radar signature on a variety of state-of-the-art sensor systems on the F/A-18's, the E-2 Hawkeye flying overhead, and the USS Nimitz and Aegis-equipped USS Princeton.

5 posted on 07/29/2023 5:18:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Openurmind; Churchjack; eastforker; Levy78; maddog55; Jonty30; GingisK; Mark17; spirited irish; ...

Ping


6 posted on 07/29/2023 5:20:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: V_TWIN

If real and we can communicate, suggest they demonstrate their vaporize rays on an area like DC. We will not negotiate without that demo.


7 posted on 07/29/2023 5:22:26 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: RoosterRedux

If you could get a tic tac to fly my Jimmy could land it.


8 posted on 07/29/2023 5:22:29 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: V_TWIN
My first inclination woukd be something like a chinese super drone.

I'm constantly admonished by the normalcy bias folks that the chicoms are hopelessly behind us in military tech, and if they are unable to steal it, they can't even engineer a balsa wood and rubber band airplane.

9 posted on 07/29/2023 5:22:44 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

The covid hysteria showed that people are far more impressionable than anyone ever thought. And if you remember, people that weren’t got hammered......this ufo thing just may be the next attempt to push people in a particular direction to advance the very real control and compliance agenda.


10 posted on 07/29/2023 5:23:03 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Mouton

Rehoboth beach Delaware #2


11 posted on 07/29/2023 5:24:24 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN
If it is a Chinese drone, we need to know (and Joe wants his 10%).

Regarding mass hysteria, I think what we're witnessing (possibly) is a slow disclosure so that people won't freak out. The old "frog in a steadily warming pot" method.

If people are told (as they are being told) that something is here, but we aren't quite sure what it is...that whatever it is doesn't seem to be trying to make contact and in fact might have been here for a very long time...people don't react with mass hysteria. They just yawn and go about their business.

BTW, the concern isn't just mass hysteria but a stock market collapse that destroys our financial system and causes a collapse of the economy.

As someone who is glued to the market "ticker" all day long, I can honestly say that, so far, the market doesn't seem to give a damn. In fact, most investors think Elon Musk is an alien.

12 posted on 07/29/2023 5:29:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Sirius Lee

“the chicoms are hopelessly behind us in military tech”

Trust but verify

_Ronald Reagan


13 posted on 07/29/2023 5:30:52 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: RoosterRedux

“intravenously“ ???


14 posted on 07/29/2023 5:31:34 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: RoosterRedux
I keep coming back to "someone" has figured out how to harness the earth's magnetic fields.


15 posted on 07/29/2023 5:31:53 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo“What were you doing in the store? You were eating the food?”)
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To: RoosterRedux
That’s why it was so confusing to us in the moment and seemed to defy what we know and expect to be laws of physics and limitations of capabilities.

If someone has figured out a way to control gravity/inertia with electromagnetic forces, this is what would be expected. Basically an "inertialess" drive. It also opens up space travel, even if only at sub light speeds.

16 posted on 07/29/2023 5:31:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Mouton
"If real and we can communicate, suggest they demonstrate their vaporize rays on an area like DC. We will not negotiate without that demo."

Good plan... Let's get on this.. :)

17 posted on 07/29/2023 5:32:04 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’ve heard that about Musk. To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least......and it sure would explain a hell of a lot. 😏


18 posted on 07/29/2023 5:33:32 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I bet, unlike the 38 year development path of the F35, it can fly during lightning storms too.


19 posted on 07/29/2023 5:34:58 AM PDT by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain….)
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To: marktwain
Yes, spot on question, thank you.

1947's flying saucers have become today's flying tic-tacs.

20 posted on 07/29/2023 5:35:07 AM PDT by OKSooner ("That's not my concern.")
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