We're already there.
The "Turner Diaries" has come true.
Posted on 08/01/2023 4:39:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Why?
They want us DEAD. It is much harder to kill political enemies when they are armed. I have zero doubt that Biden would order us all killed if he could get our guns. Zero doubt.
“Actions speak louder than words”
Learned that from parents as a youngster during the 1930s & 1940s...
Even then, the communists took actions, tiny and large, to destroy the capitalist system of the United States and abolish American freedoms & liberties...
Step by step... Decade after decade...They have finally succeeded...
Words never mattered...
Their actions did...
I don’t believe we can expect any help from President Trump on protection of gun rights should he be reelected President.
Re: 43 - Sadly agree. He’s never expressed (that I’m aware of) regret about the bumpstock ban he pushed for and which ultimately was enacted as a final rule by the ATF. His comments about red flag laws and lack of due process rights is another concern.
He’s got some explaining to do - thus far he’s done little of it.
He banned more guns than Obama did. I'm absolutely certain that if he had lost both the House and Senate in 2018, we'd have gotten an assault weapons ban as well.
We're already there.
The "Turner Diaries" has come true.
No one wants to take your guns away. Today.
The liberals plan to gradually make gun ownership so difficult and expensive that many will give them up. They won’t try outlawing and confiscation because that would result in a shooting war that they could not win.
First, they will outlaw certain types of guns. Any firearm that can accept a detachable magazine will become an “assault weapon”. Your scoped .30-06 deer rifle will become a “sniper rifle”. Your 12 gauge pump shotgun will become a “street sweeper”. They will outlaw “armor piercing” ammunition which will be defined as any bullet that can penetrate soft body armor. That will mean that practically ALL rifle ammunition will be banned. All replacement parts for your firearms will be prohibited from being manufactured or sold.
Then they will institute high capacity magazine bans and prohibitions against transferring them, safe storage requirements, mandatory liability insurance, registration, restrictions on where and how you can carry and use a gun. A violation of any one of them will be a felony that takes away your right to keep and bear arms. They will require expensive and lengthy “safety training” and licensing. All firearms transfers will be required to go through a background check and the current law will be changed so that any agent of the government will have instant access to the database. Having unregistered firearm will be a felony with a severe penalty.
Firearms must be disassembled, so they cannot be “readily assembled” in under some arbitrary time. All firearms must be stored in an expensive, government approved safe and ammunition in a separate safe. The government will be given a list of purchasers of such safes. There will be no-warrant spot checks to verify storage requirements and the accuracy of your registered firearms. Alternately, you will be allowed to store your firearms at a government approved facility. When you check your guns out, notice will be sent to the government in case you’re a terrorist or a patriot (both are the same to liberals) You must account for every round fired.
Then there will be high taxes on ammunition and firearms, background checks before you can buy ammunition or reloading components, universal background checks on firearms, elimination of instant background checks, mandatory waiting periods where the government can delay approval indefinitely and your social media posts will be scrutinized for “troubling” content. If you buy “too much” ammunition or reloading components, it will trigger an automatic red flag to law enforcement where you will have to explain why you need to reload 1000 rounds of 9mm.
They will have secret “no buy” lists that any politician, law enforcement officer, or bureaucrat can add to and no one is allowed to see. There will be with no due process once your name is on it. There will be “red flag laws” where anyone can report you as a “threat” where your firearms can be seized without due process.
There will be a ban on the manufacture of new firearms, except to the government, of course, and a total ban on the transfer of existing firearms, even to relatives in a will.
And don’t forget about “smart guns” which will be ridiculously expensive, unreliable, and easily overridden and defeated to make it possible for the government to disable them remotely. All new firearms will be required to have them and eventually they will require ALL firearms to be retrofitted with them. Which is impossible of course, but anyone caught with a dumb gun will be charged with a felony and jailed.
During all this, your children and grandchildren will be flooded with propaganda that tells them that guns are bad, no one needs guns and that they should rat out family members, neighbors and friends with “illegal” guns and how “good citizens” turn in grandpop’s guns when he dies.
All of this will be done a step at a time with the promise of safety. Their safety. They sit behind desks in buildings with government-paid, armed security and bulletproof glass and ride around in armored limousines living in the best houses and eating the finest food your money can buy.
By that time, the citizens will be brainwashed into believing that it’s for their own good as the warden slams the doors shut.
Apparently you did not like my statement that you cannot vote someone’s rights away because rights don’t work that way. Even if support for a total gun ban was as high as you say, my RKBA wold STILL exist. Tyranny by the majority is still tyranny.
Why do gun owners resist “common sense” gun control? Because we know that they are ALL just baby steps toward confiscation. Would you accept the number of restrictions on ANY other right? Would you support bans on certain words or phrases because they might offend someone? Would you ban certain religions because you disagreed with their beliefs?
NONE of your “common sense” gun control schemes would do anything to stop crime. ALL of them are meant to harass law-abiding gun owners. Do you think that the murderers and gang bangers are going to give up their guns because of some law? Did the gun free zone at Parkland stop Nicolas Cruz? Would waiting periods, safe storage laws, and insurance have stopped him? Should automobile manufacturers and liquor distilleries be held responsible if someone is killed while the operator is driving drunk?
When in human history have the strong not preyed on the weak? For the first time in history a frail 80 year old grandmother has the ability to defend herself against a 250 lb 20 year old man and you would take that ability away. How would it be better if she were beaten to death instead of the attacker being shot to death?
Lastly, tell me, how do you plan on confiscating 350 million firearms from tens of millions of people, many who will fight to the death to keep them? Will your sons and husbands and loved ones be willing to die to try to take away other people’s rights?
No one wants to take your guns away. Today.
The liberals plan to gradually make gun ownership so difficult and expensive that many will give them up. They won’t try outlawing and confiscation because that would result in a shooting war that they could not win.
First, they will outlaw certain types of guns. Any firearm that can accept a detachable magazine will become an “assault weapon”. Your scoped .30-06 deer rifle will become a “sniper rifle”. Your 12 gauge pump shotgun will become a “street sweeper”. They will outlaw “armor piercing” ammunition which will be defined as any bullet that can penetrate soft body armor. That will mean that practically ALL rifle ammunition will be banned. All replacement parts for your firearms will be prohibited from being manufactured or sold.
Then they will institute high capacity magazine bans and prohibitions against transferring them, safe storage requirements, mandatory liability insurance, registration, restrictions on where and how you can carry and use a gun. A violation of any one of them will be a felony that takes away your right to keep and bear arms. They will require expensive and lengthy “safety training” and licensing. All firearms transfers will be required to go through a background check and the current law will be changed so that any agent of the government will have instant access to the database. Having unregistered firearm will be a felony with a severe penalty.
Firearms must be disassembled, so they cannot be “readily assembled” in under some arbitrary time. All firearms must be stored in an expensive, government approved safe and ammunition in a separate safe. The government will be given a list of purchasers of such safes. There will be no-warrant spot checks to verify storage requirements and the accuracy of your registered firearms. Alternately, you will be allowed to store your firearms at a government approved facility. When you check your guns out, notice will be sent to the government in case you’re a terrorist or a patriot (both are the same to liberals) You must account for every round fired.
Then there will be high taxes on ammunition and firearms, background checks before you can buy ammunition or reloading components, universal background checks on firearms, elimination of instant background checks, mandatory waiting periods where the government can delay approval indefinitely and your social media posts will be scrutinized for “troubling” content. If you buy “too much” ammunition or reloading components, it will trigger an automatic red flag to law enforcement where you will have to explain why you need to reload 1000 rounds of 9mm.
They will have secret “no buy” lists that any politician, law enforcement officer, or bureaucrat can add to and no one is allowed to see. There will be with no due process once your name is on it. There will be “red flag laws” where anyone can report you as a “threat” where your firearms can be seized without due process.
There will be a ban on the manufacture of new firearms, except to the government, of course, and a total ban on the transfer of existing firearms, even to relatives in a will.
And don’t forget about “smart guns” which will be ridiculously expensive, unreliable, and easily overridden and defeated to make it possible for the government to disable them remotely. All new firearms will be required to have them and eventually they will require ALL firearms to be retrofitted with them. Which is impossible of course, but anyone caught with a dumb gun will be charged with a felony and jailed.
During all this, your children and grandchildren will be flooded with propaganda that tells them that guns are bad, no one needs guns and that they should rat out family members, neighbors and friends with “illegal” guns and how “good citizens” turn in grandpop’s guns when he dies.
All of this will be done a step at a time with the promise of safety. Their safety. They sit behind desks in buildings with government-paid, armed security and bulletproof glass and ride around in armored limousines living in the best houses and eating the finest food your money can buy.
By that time, the citizens will be brainwashed into believing that it’s for their own good as the warden slams the doors shut.
They call it regulation. Here in commiefornia, the rules for AR’s make the AR’s substantially unusable. The stupid fin behind the grip removes any chance of controlling the recoil. You will be branded as an outlaw if you remove it. The DNC is pushing for the same commiefornia rules to become national
When have they been honest about anything?
It is why I callem “Lieberals!”
They LIE!
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Yes, they understand what happened. The Leftist Democrats just do not want it happening again.
They keep lying to keep half the voters from telling them fuck of INA two way shooting range.
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