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1 posted on 08/11/2023 10:10:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The author of the original piece is merely a politician seeking to denigrate his enemies. He's no historian and he's no classical scholar.

This is immediately apparent. My Greek is rusty, but even I know better; and I do hold a good degree in History.

2 posted on 08/11/2023 10:17:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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Marxism is based on envy, so anything heroic, manly, strong or brave, the Left have to deconstruct it.

3 posted on 08/11/2023 10:21:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Google the author. Skinny little bitch boi who is intimidated by powerful and capable men.


4 posted on 08/11/2023 10:25:26 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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I think it is wrong to say “studying history”.

That sounds dry and boring.

Say instead that we are looking for good ideas to use and what bad ideas we should ignore.


5 posted on 08/11/2023 10:27:30 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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Yeah, they were indeed fags, they killed babies they deemed unfit for various reasons by leaving them out on the hillside to die. They sneaked and murdered Helot slaves for training etc. They were certainly not defending anything sane people would see as freedom. Individual liberty was a concept utterly unknown to them.
Spartans have turned into a cartoon today. But they were essentially a slave state, nobody had anything resembling freedom, and were probably fairly close to Communist China overall.


6 posted on 08/11/2023 10:35:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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One of the standout characteristics of fascist regimes is their militarism

Actually no; the author is wrong... A standout characteristic of the Axis Alliance might be militarism but while all Nazi's were Fascists not all Fascists were Nazi's. Spain, under Fransisco Franco, was a Fascist state but was not militaristic and was a neutral country during ww2. Far too many people, even presumed experts on the subject, have no idea what Fascism is really about...

8 posted on 08/11/2023 10:48:26 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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Sparta was a society in which a certain class of ultra-militarized abused and utterly dominated the rest of society. Despite sacrificing every other good in society to military domination, they weren’t uniquely militarily effective; they were no stronger than Athens until the Persians joined them. To say that since other cultures owned slaves, to call Sparta Fascist is to call all the other slave-owning cultures fascist is a reductio ad absurdum on top of a straw man.

So why does this author oppose someone pointing out that the Spartan might wasn’t all that?


9 posted on 08/11/2023 10:57:28 AM PDT by dangus
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10 posted on 08/11/2023 11:55:30 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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There was/is a Spartacist (communist) movement out of Germany in the early 20th century. I knew a member from the 70’s. Once the communist government was achieved...they were to commit suicide. (Useful idiots)


11 posted on 08/11/2023 12:24:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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One very interesting tidbit about the Spartans, according to older historians who wrote before the woke world invaded academia, is that all Spartans were raised as bisexuals.


12 posted on 08/11/2023 12:25:06 PM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business )
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