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80% of bosses say they regret earlier return-to-office plans: ‘A lot of executives have egg on their faces’
cnbc ^ | 11 August 2023 | Morgan Smith

Posted on 08/15/2023 10:58:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: EEGator
They hard workers left for better paying remote jobs, and the low skilled betas stayed.

There's some truth to that...

21 posted on 08/15/2023 11:13:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (FoxNews Debate first time Trump ran: Democrat Chris Wallace with a blond bimbo. And this time?)
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To: Round Earther

That’s a bit broader than I’d put it. Old style management won’t work for one thing, and forcing return to office may in some cases be bosses trying to compensate for their inability to manage a remote workforce.


22 posted on 08/15/2023 11:14:08 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: 1Old Pro

“Too bad the employer wasn’t the one paying the salaries of the employees, then they’d be in a strong position...”

That only really works if no other employers are hiring.


23 posted on 08/15/2023 11:14:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: qwerty1234
What I see happening is most private sector employees will eventually be forced back in the office - with some exceptions for some people - but most government employees will end up staying at home.

It’s going to be the other way around. The private sector is going to migrate to 100% work-from-home operations as leases come up for renewal and companies save tons of money by downsizing their office space. Government workers will be forced back to the office because: (1) the employer doesn’t care about the cost of the space, and (2) they are going to face political pressure to save this nation’s urban dumps.

24 posted on 08/15/2023 11:18:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You’ll be able to point out their posts easily…


25 posted on 08/15/2023 11:20:55 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: ShadowAce

How did they do pet care before Covid?


26 posted on 08/15/2023 11:21:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Alberta's Child
The private sector is going to migrate to 100% work-from-home operations as leases come up for renewal and companies save tons of money by downsizing their office space.

I agree with both of your points, but this one especially. It's going to be a competitive advantage for a company NOT to have a burdensome financial commitment to some aging piece of real estate. If the workers are at home, it's easier to make the bottomline and turn a profit. The company that tries to hold on to the skyscraper is going to have real uphill struggle to make a profit. It's not rocket science.

27 posted on 08/15/2023 11:23:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: cymbeline

Everyone is applauding our new “stay at home work” culture. Wait until “stay at home work” is replaced by AI.


28 posted on 08/15/2023 11:23:29 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: ClearCase_guy

yeah I had plenty of those types.


29 posted on 08/15/2023 11:25:44 AM PDT by vmpolesov
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To: ShadowAce

One of my clients insists on me being in the office one day a week. Travel time is work time in my contract, as is fuel costs.

So I drive the 5 hours there on a Sunday, charge them that as overtime for wasting my weekend, stay in a $150 a night hotel, expense my Sunday dinner, and at 1pm on the dot I set off on the drive home so as to avoid doubling the overtime bill.

That accounts for four hours of productivity and is costing them at least $300 a week, and all they are actually doing is paying me $300 to sit in the car for ten hours.

The other 31 hours of work I do get done in addition to the 10 hours they insist on wasting over a dumbass reason for 4 hours of presenteeism, I get done by getting up at 8:15 every morning and walking to a home office that’s got 3 monitors, a laser printer, and a dedicated broadband line.

By 6pm I’m feet up in my living room having done more than I’m actually contracted to do.

Bosses who insist on presenteeism for the sake of it are nutters.


30 posted on 08/15/2023 11:28:08 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: MalPearce

It sounds like you are a contractor not an employee.


31 posted on 08/15/2023 11:29:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Right Brother
Everyone is applauding our new “stay at home work” culture.

Some of us are applauding it because we warned about these inevitable consequences way back in March 2020 when this COVID idiocy started.

Now these morons are reaping what they’ve sown. Too bad.

32 posted on 08/15/2023 11:30:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: ShadowAce

Some of these genius executives mandated vaxxes for employees that worked at home full time.

The best employees laughed at the stupidity and went on to greener pastures.


33 posted on 08/15/2023 11:31:07 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: unclebankster

The “tight labor market” is not the issue.

You can hire all the dregs you want.

What is “tight” is highly skilled specialized skills.

Those workers can their own shots.


34 posted on 08/15/2023 11:32:44 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: EEGator

Covid (never vaxxed) wrecked my health. I now work from home because I can no longer drive.

I’m still bringing in big accounts, so my bosses don’t care.


35 posted on 08/15/2023 11:33:12 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: Right Brother

AI can replace at the office work.

The AI can sleep through boring meetings even better than real people!


36 posted on 08/15/2023 11:34:31 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: TheWriterTX

Sorry your health went south, glad you’re doing well otherwise.

I understand not answering, but did you have a seizure or something similar?


37 posted on 08/15/2023 11:37:50 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Boogieman
That only really works if no other employers are hiring.

It depends on the industry

38 posted on 08/15/2023 11:39:16 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ShadowAce

In my field as well as others I’ve talked to the same work now being sold as “Work remotely” pays significantly less than the traditional work environments.

Companies found a way to save money in this remote work scam. They offer less pay to remote workers because to many it’s worth the cut in pay to be at home...

.. Doing other stuff.


39 posted on 08/15/2023 11:39:19 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: qwerty1234

Yeah?

I’m here in the Bay Area.

How do you see “Back to Work” happening.

Just spoke with several customers who were suppose to be ready for RtO and was informed they will pay for their logo on the outside of the building 1st Qtr or 2nd Qtr but, they will be working from home from now on.

Largest law firm in San Francisco went from 1100 employees on site and 10 floors, down to 2 floors and 100 on site....tops.

roughly 75% of buildings in San Francisco Financial District are empty.

The Financial District taxes accounted for 70% of tax revenue, pre-covid.

Meanwhile, on the Peninsula, about 60% of buildings are occupied.

We ain’t coming back to office, if you can do Zoom or email for most of the day....

The only people who need to be on site is anyone who works with their hands ...


40 posted on 08/15/2023 11:40:44 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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