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1 posted on 08/15/2023 10:58:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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"Many organizations that attempted to force a return to the office have had to retract or change their plans because of employee pushback, and now, they don't look strong,"

Too bad the employer wasn't the one paying the salaries of the employees, then they'd be in a strong position, wait, what?

2 posted on 08/15/2023 11:00:22 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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They hard workers left for better paying remote jobs, and the low skilled betas stayed.
Good luck.


3 posted on 08/15/2023 11:01:06 AM PDT by EEGator
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If these people have WFH for 2 or 3 years, going back to work now would be like taking a huge pay cut.


4 posted on 08/15/2023 11:02:22 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I retired early (I’m early 50s) rather than forced return to office.


5 posted on 08/15/2023 11:02:54 AM PDT by vmpolesov
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Translation: several companies have lost their some of their most valuable employees by demanding they return to the office.


7 posted on 08/15/2023 11:03:31 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Oh, shut up and go to work.


8 posted on 08/15/2023 11:03:32 AM PDT by servo1969
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Other than the usual healthcare, I know of no one back in the office.


10 posted on 08/15/2023 11:03:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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The physical office is a relic of the past and only to be used by outdated industries.


11 posted on 08/15/2023 11:04:22 AM PDT by Round Earther
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The physical office is a relic of the past and only to be used by outdated industries.


12 posted on 08/15/2023 11:04:23 AM PDT by Round Earther
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I think we are in a period where the workers know that their “Boss” needs the workers more than the workers need the “Boss”. If the people in charge act like little tyrants and try to rule through fear, the workers just won’t put up with it. And a lot of people in management these days only know how to manage by fear. They’re dinosaurs now.


13 posted on 08/15/2023 11:04:49 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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You have to say that the jobs that can be worked at home are “communication jobs”, and that the benefits of face-to-face meeting is of little value. Guess there are a lot of those jobs.

I work a hybrid schedule and except for the commute I’d rather come to work. Being at home all day, day in and day out, is too isolating for me.

The trend is good news for people that can’t work at home. As time goes on employers will need to pay them more — maybe not.

In other words, getting off your ass might be worth something.


16 posted on 08/15/2023 11:08:46 AM PDT by cymbeline
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I just wonder HOW MANY of these executives who are having difficulty “forcing” workers back into the office are the VERY SAME ONES that threatened to Fire Employees for not getting the VAX? A bit of Karma???

Maybe the employees just think these executives are Class A Jerks.


19 posted on 08/15/2023 11:12:22 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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This whole COVID fiasco has been an exercise in mental retardation — by government and corporate leaders alike.

Even six months ago, companies were willing to eat these costs in a tight labor market to recruit and retain talent. But now, "Some companies are getting impatient, and want to recoup these large investments," Kacher explains.

If you are a CEO and your company has been operating just fine for 3+ years with your staff working from home, you don’t “recoup” anything by forcing them back to the office. You’re just making them work in your overpriced office space because you’re too embarrassed to admit that you don’t need it even though you still have years left on the lease.

20 posted on 08/15/2023 11:13:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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How did they do pet care before Covid?


26 posted on 08/15/2023 11:21:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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One of my clients insists on me being in the office one day a week. Travel time is work time in my contract, as is fuel costs.

So I drive the 5 hours there on a Sunday, charge them that as overtime for wasting my weekend, stay in a $150 a night hotel, expense my Sunday dinner, and at 1pm on the dot I set off on the drive home so as to avoid doubling the overtime bill.

That accounts for four hours of productivity and is costing them at least $300 a week, and all they are actually doing is paying me $300 to sit in the car for ten hours.

The other 31 hours of work I do get done in addition to the 10 hours they insist on wasting over a dumbass reason for 4 hours of presenteeism, I get done by getting up at 8:15 every morning and walking to a home office that’s got 3 monitors, a laser printer, and a dedicated broadband line.

By 6pm I’m feet up in my living room having done more than I’m actually contracted to do.

Bosses who insist on presenteeism for the sake of it are nutters.


30 posted on 08/15/2023 11:28:08 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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Some of these genius executives mandated vaxxes for employees that worked at home full time.

The best employees laughed at the stupidity and went on to greener pastures.


33 posted on 08/15/2023 11:31:07 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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In my field as well as others I’ve talked to the same work now being sold as “Work remotely” pays significantly less than the traditional work environments.

Companies found a way to save money in this remote work scam. They offer less pay to remote workers because to many it’s worth the cut in pay to be at home...

.. Doing other stuff.


39 posted on 08/15/2023 11:39:19 AM PDT by Celerity
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The corporations decided to go in lockstep with petty government tyrants and now they are sad when employees tell them to pack sand. 75% of the corporate suite could be fired tomorrow and no one, especially the stockholders, would miss them.


41 posted on 08/15/2023 11:41:52 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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If they really were worried about carbon footprint, working from home is a really easy solution.
I drive about 5k/year now and most of that is vacations.
In reality, this is all about Commercial Real Estate.

SF is getting pummeled with vacancy and vacancy penalties.
Commercial real estate is dropping in SF.


43 posted on 08/15/2023 11:45:46 AM PDT by Zathras
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I am retired, but I still have contacts back at my job.

They told everybody they had to come to work 3 days a week, but they don’t have enough desks. Now the managers are fighting over desks for their employees. Some people come at 7 AM and grab a desk while one is still available.


44 posted on 08/15/2023 11:47:34 AM PDT by proxy_user
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