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Was Alexander the Great an Alcoholic?
Greek Reporter ^ | August 16, 2023 | Alexander Gale

Posted on 08/17/2023 4:32:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 08/17/2023 4:32:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Don’t know if he was an alcoholic but heard he was a fag (or Bi)


2 posted on 08/17/2023 4:36:14 PM PDT by jpp113
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I tend to think that anyone who could afford to drink alcohol before there was clean drinking water did so as a matter of good practice. When that happens there is alway a propensity to become an alcoholic. It’s not that big of a deal when everyone else is going around half drunk too.


3 posted on 08/17/2023 4:37:19 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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“Alexander consumed large quantities of undiluted wine periodically....”

I think they’d probably find something similar true of almost every soldier that ever went to war.


4 posted on 08/17/2023 4:38:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Within recent history, drinks with alcohol were preferred over water because the water was usually not very clean and caused disease. Alcohol in fluids does a great job of killing bacteria, and long before people knew anything about bacteria or alcohol, they noticed that people who drank straight water tended to get sick more than people who mixed alcohol in their drink. Alexander may very well have been an alcoholic - I’d guess many people of that time and for multiple centuries afterward were if they could afford it.


5 posted on 08/17/2023 4:38:59 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I’m not sure, but I think Alexander threw a vase at his father when he was drunk too.


6 posted on 08/17/2023 4:47:28 PM PDT by struggle
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To: ConservativeInPA

In Alexander’s case it was more a problem with how he behaved when he was in the cups. It was a problem that bothered him. His men had to restrain him from killing himself after he ran Clitus through during a drinking bout. He sacked and burned Persepolis to the ground... another ‘idea’ he got while at a drinking party that he probably regretted afterwards. When his friend Hephaestion (the only person he probably actually loved) died he went into a long inordinate mourning. Alexander was not a Stoic... It was those personality traits that came to the fore when he was drinking that were a problem.


7 posted on 08/17/2023 4:47:42 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

The Macedonian upper class had a traditional of drinking bouts. So, by our standards they probably all were.


8 posted on 08/17/2023 4:50:13 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: struggle

My history teacher referred to him as “Alexander The Grape”


9 posted on 08/17/2023 4:50:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: struggle

Yeah... he threw a drinking cup at him at Phillip’s marriage to a Greek wife. Someone had insinuated that now Phillip could have a Greek son. Alexander (whose mother was Boeotian) heard it and berated his father... started a row. Alexander yelled “who am I then” and threw the cup. Phillip tried to run at him and tripped across the floor (drunk probably) and Alexander yelled’’ “look, he thinks he is going to conquer Asia and he can’t make it across the room.’ Nasty scene... all families have their ups and downs..


10 posted on 08/17/2023 4:52:06 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: nickcarraway

It has been said by others here, but until fairly recent times water was often deadly and alcoholic beverages at least killed the bacteria. A fair percentage of the population had a buzz on pretty much all the time unless they lived near a very clean source of water.


11 posted on 08/17/2023 4:57:41 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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Yes.

I labeled him an alcoholic in my 1992 book, Vessels of Rage, published in the UK (Element Books) as The Secret History of Alcoholism.

The most significant sign of alcoholism and the most difficult to hide is ... high tolerance. As I note in my book Alexander would challenge followers to drinking contests which he always won.


12 posted on 08/17/2023 4:58:15 PM PDT by aculeus
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Add to that his impulsive behavior when drinking and his regret over it’s consequences, he’d have a hard time escaping the alkie Dx from a modern shrink. All Macedonians drank wine... often not mixed with water like the Greeks, it was how the alcohol effected him that was problematic.


13 posted on 08/17/2023 5:04:41 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: ConservativeInPA
I believe that was how beer started out. The brewing (and the alcohol) probably killed a lot of pathogens that might be found in other natural sources of water. It was a way to preserve grain and provide caloric intake.

...And it made ugly girls look hot on a Saturday night...

14 posted on 08/17/2023 5:11:28 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: nickcarraway

Of course he was, based upon his nickname: Alexander the Grape.


15 posted on 08/17/2023 5:12:48 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Alexander’s growing adoption of Persian customs, including the acceptance of practices like proskynesis that were considered degrading by many in the Macedonian army

So, he took a fancy to little dwarf women, eh? If I know my Greek pro = 2, so he liked them them two at a time like Fredo and the cocktail waitresses. What a strange bird.

16 posted on 08/17/2023 5:15:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: fhayek

It was the latter. They didn’t have paper bags back then.


17 posted on 08/17/2023 5:19:29 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: BipolarBob

If you’re the son of Zeus-Ammon, the rules no longer apply to you.


18 posted on 08/17/2023 5:25:40 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: nickcarraway

He died at around age 33. Given the weak alcohol level of beverages back then (I believe? - no spirits back then) there must have been some other strong contributing factors.


19 posted on 08/17/2023 5:26:14 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: nickcarraway

and we should care why?


20 posted on 08/17/2023 5:26:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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