Posted on 09/03/2023 6:41:06 AM PDT by patriot torch
Missionary Evangelist Robert Breaker talks about the Rapture, and how it's BEFORE the tribulation.
He has garnered over 92 million views on his you tube videos.
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Of course, it is.
Whatever. If you want to believe you’ll magically disappear before it all hits the fan then you demand too much.
“Immature Christians”
Always astonishing to me how dedicated so many Christians are to belittling other Christians.
there is no rapture and the Bible is very clear about that. everyone will go through the tribulation.
I posted this 55 minute video about 43 minutes ago. And already the scoffers are scoffing. Watch the video first. Then feel free to offer your rebuttal.
Why do you term a pre-trib rapture magical? Is interpretation of the scripture any more magical pre-trib than post-trib? Something tells me your choice of the word "magically" is the tip of an iceberg.
Most who believe and have believed in a pre-trib rapture will not experience the event as a living human translated into a glorified being, snatched up to heaven. They will have already died (often in lesser tribulations) by the time the event occurs.
I beleive the evidence for prescribed is stronger than mid or post trib, but it’s not a hill im gonna defend to the pointmof causing strife and anger with thkse who beleive differently. Pre, mid or post, in the end, we Wil. Be with Jesus in heaven or in the new Jerusalem and thats plenty of with me!
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“there is no rapture and the Bible is very clear about that. everyone will go through the tribulation.”
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Perhaps you might like to explain that to Enoch and Elijah.
Or better yet, how would you explain away the catching up of Enoch and Elijah?
Hebrews 11:5
King James Version
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
2 Kings 2:10-12
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10 And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
Or, while your add it, explain how a Man, Crucified for our sins, buried for 3 days, was able to be Resurrected? This ought to be easy for one who has established in his own mind that it’s not possible.
John 11:25
King James Version
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Acts 23:6
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6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
Acts 24:21
King James Version
21 Except it be for this one voice, that I cried standing among them, Touching the resurrection of the dead I am called in question by you this day.
1 Corinthians 15:12
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12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
...and before you say the Resurrection is only for the dead, then explain THIS:
1 Thessalonians 4:17
King James Version
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The following are synonomous one with the other:
Rapture, Catching away, Snatched away, Resurrection, harpazo
Thanks, I’ll be awaiting your response.
Doh I meant “I beleive the evidence for pre-trib is stronger than mid or post trib,:
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“we Wil. Be with Jesus in heaven or in the new Jerusalem and thats plenty OK with me!”
If the bible is so clear about that, why do I not find the church mentioned in Revelation on earth from the time John has his vision of the future in Rev 4 until Christ returns in Rev 19?
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“Whatever. If you want to believe you’ll magically disappear before it all hits the fan then you demand too much.”
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God inspired the Words I quote, I quote them, however men of God wrote them.
If you dispute the Word of God, take it up with my Boss.
2 Timothy 3:16
King James Version
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Ok. Understood.
I've read Revelation several times and see no need for a rapture.
Why then isn't the church mentioned on earth between the time John sees his vision(s) of the tribulation in Rev 4 until Christ returns in Rev 19? The word church does appear in the book about 19 times depending on translation but never during the actual tribulation events described in Rev 4 - Rev 19.
“I’ve read Revelation several times and see no need for a rapture.”
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well, that’s your choice.
It should then be a cake walk for you and those “Left behind”
Revelation 9:5-7
King James Version
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
Amen!!!
Come up hither....
That question is one of the stronger points for th3 case for pre trib.
This topic however causes far too much emphatic anger with folks who become adamant one way or the other. We have seen people already (not you) indicating that if you don’t beleive that there wont be a rapture, then You must beleive in fairytale.
Ah, but God will place his own mark on the heads of his followers, that they will not be harmed. That is as good as a rapture to me.
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