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Handguns are percieved as more effective in defending against bears because handguns are kept on the person and are therefore more accessable; handguns are used at close range, therefore defense with a handgun is more likely to be viewed as a defense.

Shooting a problem bear at a distance, with a long gun is likely to solve the bear problem without it being considered defensive.

1 posted on 10/15/2023 5:06:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I’d want a S&W 500 magnum.


2 posted on 10/15/2023 5:07:46 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (81 votes my ass.)
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To: marktwain

And in other research, expert scientists have proven the sun comes up in the east.

Trust the science!


3 posted on 10/15/2023 5:07:55 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: marktwain

Yes, even a small caliber pistol shot through the leg of your hiking buddy will give you the time to get away.

(old joke, I know)


4 posted on 10/15/2023 5:08:21 AM PDT by Boomer (Winter is coming...)
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To: marktwain

“because of the small sample, this is not a statistically valid difference.”

So the headline is completely wrong.


6 posted on 10/15/2023 5:13:03 AM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: marktwain

The fumble factor for sure, handguns are quicker to access and use. Long guns strapped over shoulders may or may not be ready to fire.

And fending off attack doesn’t mean killing the animal, just stopping it from killing you.


14 posted on 10/15/2023 5:30:06 AM PDT by baclava
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To: marktwain

A friend of mine was part of a hunting party in Alaska. The guide carried a 12-gauge shotgun for defense against bears. Short barrel, and double barrel.

“Why a double-barreled shotgun?” my friend asked.
“Because two shots are all you’re gonna get,” was the reply.

I suppose the guide also carried a handgun. My friend forgot to ask about that.


18 posted on 10/15/2023 5:39:07 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: marktwain

Instead of an attacking bear how about defending yourself against a robbery or a rapist with a handgun? At least there’s a chance once the perp sees the weapon would think twice.


20 posted on 10/15/2023 5:54:21 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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To: marktwain
We only have black bears around here. A humble .375 will take care of one, not that they are generally aggressive as they have mostly moved to the suburbs to dine on a superabundance of garbage that people leave out.

A moos on the other hand...

22 posted on 10/15/2023 6:00:11 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: marktwain

No, no, no! Honey...just give us honey and we will go away.


24 posted on 10/15/2023 6:06:33 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: marktwain

I have an Alexander Arms “Beowulf AR50” w/ 375gr FMJs/HPs and take that into the woods with my CCW sidearm Kimber 1911 “Ecxlipse Target II” .45cal ACP w/230gr FMJ/HPs, and that one goes everywhere with me. I’ve never seen a bear here in south central PA, but have once seen a large grey wolf, which disappeared quickly with a chicken in its mouth, probably from a local farm. We do have black bears, but they’re further north.


25 posted on 10/15/2023 6:43:09 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: marktwain

Yeah....Niggly Bears.


27 posted on 10/15/2023 7:04:58 AM PDT by know.your.why (<>)
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To: marktwain

Bear attacks and Progressive attacks as well


29 posted on 10/15/2023 7:26:22 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: marktwain

Any mention of different handgun ammunition? Not just bullet shape or composition, but how many grains of propellant?

And since prior to hibernation, bears tend to put on a lot of fat, I imagine penetration can vary a lot.


30 posted on 10/15/2023 7:29:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: marktwain

I have been a student of the defensive use of firearms against wild things since the 1980’s. I killed a charging black bear in my yard in Alaska with a .308 rifle and deterred a charging brown bear with 12 ga cracker shells. Both encounters were less than 25 yards when I opened fire. Handguns are for last ditch survival and are very specialized for this purpose. I carry a Ruger Redhawk .44 magnum loaded with heavy cast lead solid bullets at high velocity in an easily accessible chest holster. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Draw, flash sight picture, fire, repeat, repeat, repeat until it becomes automatic. If you have time grab a long gun. I now live in NW Montana with lots of black bears and an increasing grizzly population. Most importantly BE BEAR AWARE!


32 posted on 10/15/2023 8:45:19 AM PDT by 43north (America doesn't need an election. We need an exorcism.)
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To: marktwain

Haven’t been in brown bear country, lately, but if I were somewhere where there was a chance of running into Yogi I would carry a rifle or 12 guage and a 10mm.
Intetesting study, though.
It’s always better to be armed.
Thanks.


33 posted on 10/15/2023 9:00:39 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Good to know! (Just in case the hounds find a grizzly that has relocated east of the Mississippi!)
36 posted on 10/15/2023 9:44:07 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: marktwain

I dropped a 45 several months back. It went off and shot my leg. Blew left shinn in two. My guess is a 45 is a pretty good defensive round for shooting a bear….


47 posted on 10/15/2023 6:26:49 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: marktwain

U.S. drafts plan to bring grizzly bears back to Washington’s North Cascades
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-drafts-plan-to-bring-grizzly-bears-back-to-washington-s-north-cascades/ar-AA1jnpUq


75 posted on 11/05/2023 9:38:53 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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