Posted on 11/30/2023 1:46:41 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
We aren’t in Japan.
It may be a different car, but the Toyota Crown has been sold in Thailand for decades.
The Toyota Crown debuted in 1955.
I always thought Avalons were beautiful cars, but never had one. We’re sticking with our 2012 Accord (turned over 36,000 miles last week), and 2016 RAV4. It would be fun to get new snazzy cars every couple of years, but it seems like such a waste. I’m in to dependable and low cost.
The cost of today’s cars and their technical, and sometimes idiotic, complexity is beyond ridiculous. Where can you use zero to sixty times of seven seconds? Further, why would you? I owned a Mercury Marauder which had, by today’s standards, a modest three hundred horses. In Florida they can seize your car for “racing.” It doesn’t require another car to be considered “racing.” After one or two times going over a hundred, I hardly ever went over the limit again. There just are too few roads where you can, and the cops know all about those roads.
Lately I’ve bought a ‘48 Plymouth and a ‘52 Pontiac. If I park next to a six hundred horse super car, people come over to look at my antiques. They feature mundane mileage, spacious interiors and are very comfortable on the pot-holed dirt road leading to my property. I’ve never had so much fun just driving around. If I’m in a hurry and I need to stop for gas, I look for a pump with no one else there. Otherwise, I’ll have a long conversation with someone who wants to tell me about his dad’s car. It’s way more fun than going to traffic court and getting points off my license.
Always wanted an Avalon, but the budget said Camry. I will not buy a hybrid, and since this Crown comes only in a hybrid, I will probably stop buying Toyota.
I have driven Mazda CX vehicles, may go that route.
I have the opposite impression. MIL used to have an Avalon, good car mechanically but very meh on styling.
I saw an Avalon while out car shopping, liked it quite well. I wish you could get the high end Avalon powertrain in a Highlander. We’re all getting messed over by FedGov CAFE regulations on our vehicle choices, and it is getting worse fase.
I have a 2016 Avalon. Very reliable car. Typical Toyota quality. Toyota is taking the right road in advancing their hybrid technology right now and keeping their EV tech evolving in the background while waiting until EV technology overcomes their range and charging issues
There was Lexus version of the Avalon?
My ‘07 Honda has 300k+ on it and still going strong.
My daughter is driving our old 2008 Avalon.
200k+ miles and going strong, though the horsepower has proven to be a problem for her. 3 speeding tix in 3 years.
I loved road trips in that car.
Yet if people wanted a Lexus for the price of a Toyota, they bought an Avalon.
The Crown debuted in Japan in 1979 .
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You’re off by a few years. Actually a few decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Crown
This new Crown looks nothing like the older Japanese Crowns.
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And that’s a good thing.
“But it’s true lure will likely be fuel economy. The hybrid base model gets 41-42 mpg”
Going from 35 mpg to 42 mpg saves .00476 gallons per mile driven.
At $3 per gallon that’s .0142 dollars per mile savings.
Drive 10,000 miles and you’ve saved $142.00, having bought $714.00 worth of gas for the 42 mpg car.
me too. I had 2... an ‘88 and an ‘06.
The ‘06, on a flat highway, with cruise control on, was getting close to 30 mpg but not for long :)
Me, too. My favorite by a long shot. Land jets.
According to ChatGPT 4.0:
The Lexus model most similar to the Toyota Avalon is typically the Lexus ES. The Lexus ES and Toyota Avalon share many similarities because they are both manufactured by the Toyota Motor Corporation and often share the same platform and powertrain options.
Here are some key similarities:
Platform: Historically, both the Lexus ES and Toyota Avalon have been built on the same platform. This means they share similar chassis and structural designs, contributing to comparable ride quality and interior space.
Powertrain: Both models frequently offer similar engine choices and transmission systems. This often includes V6 engines and hybrid options, providing a blend of power and efficiency.
Interior Comfort and Amenities: The Lexus ES, being a luxury brand vehicle, tends to have a more upscale interior, but the Toyota Avalon also offers a high level of comfort and luxury features. Both cars typically provide spacious interiors, comfortable seating, and advanced technology and safety features.
Ride Quality: Both the Lexus ES and Toyota Avalon are known for their smooth, comfortable rides, appealing to drivers who prioritize comfort and a quieter cabin experience.
The main differences tend to be in branding, some design elements, and the level of luxury and refinement, with the Lexus ES leaning more towards a premium feel. However, for buyers looking for a vehicle similar to the Toyota Avalon but with a more luxurious touch, the Lexus ES is often the go-to recommendation.
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