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Economist predicts 'deflation is coming,' which will cause the Fed to 'scramble'
Fox Business ^ | 12/4/2023 | Madeline Coggins

Posted on 12/24/2023 7:55:50 AM PST by millenial4freedom

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To: millenial4freedom

Deflation is too few dollars chasing too many goods.


21 posted on 12/24/2023 9:30:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

With a printed, fiat dollar, and a government that can issue unlimited debt, deflation is only a short-term phenomenon.

Fed.gov @$34 Trillion debt simply can not exist with deflation

Americans, particularly Wall Street, knows this and has learned - as soon as deflation hits - BUY, because its in everyone’s interest to reflate ASAP.


22 posted on 12/24/2023 9:32:29 AM PST by PGR88
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To: cgbg
That generation was all “hoarders”—when they died it took weeks to clean out their modest houses.

My great-uncle grew up dirt poor. He always told the story about how there were never any Christmas gifts, except one year, when he got an orange, which was his greatest Christmas memory. His mom died early, so siblings got spread around relatives homes. Joined the Army at 17 to get away and get 3 meals a day. Was sent to Philippines in 1940, captured by Japs, Bataan death march, POW in China, etc...

Took absolutely nothing for granted. Saved every scrap. Cleaning out his little ranch house needed 2 construction dumpsters.

23 posted on 12/24/2023 9:42:19 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Paladin2

PPI is pointing to deflation. CPI is already close to 0% when you calculate rent in real time instead of delayed 15 months like owners equiv rent does (opposite effect in 2021 and 2022 when inflation was massively understated). Money supply is pointing to deflation.


24 posted on 12/24/2023 9:42:37 AM PST by rb22982
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To: rb22982

I see the same numbers you do.

Imho they are the “transitory” ones.

Inflation is the monster taking a little time out—getting ready to go on a feeding frenzy.


25 posted on 12/24/2023 9:46:31 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Wallace ordered the slaughter of pigs to alleviate “overproduction”

Wallace was just a socialist.

A true Communist would have ordered the slaughter of farmers to alleviate “overproduction”.


26 posted on 12/24/2023 9:48:54 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: broken_clock
Good post. There was tremendous stupidity revealed in those days. At a minimum, that guy has performed an excellent imitation of the coming Antichrist. The blind devotion, the stupid worship, the lies told to protect him.....a foreshadowing of things to come




27 posted on 12/24/2023 9:49:57 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: cgbg

Early and mid-stage PPI lead PPI. PPI leads CPI. Early and mid-stage PPI went parabolic in late 2020 and early/mid 2021, and it was obviously that was going to get into inflation, and it did. Early and mid-stage PPI are both down quite a bit (earlier moreso) and M2 is down 4% over the last year. Owners equiv rent is holding up inflation indexes but when this year’s flat to slightly negative rents show up in the index in a year, plus the recent drop in wholesale auto prices show up in retail, it’s not hard to imagine a scenario where deflation is a real risk.


28 posted on 12/24/2023 9:49:59 AM PST by rb22982
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To: ChildOfThe60s

A day of reckoning is coming for the horrendous fiscal and monetary policies since the 1960’s when LBJ decided to fight a war in Vietnam and a war on poverty at home.

Kicking the can down the road means the point at which we bite the bullet is going to be extremely painful. Best to start the process now by having the Fed stop stetting interest rates and let the market determine them.


29 posted on 12/24/2023 9:51:39 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it now.)
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To: PGR88

(Took absolutely nothing for granted. Saved every scrap.)

It’s definitely what one does when the bottom falls out.

Many will find that out as the Democrats continue to destroy everything.


30 posted on 12/24/2023 9:53:24 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris
Many will find that out as the Democrats continue to destroy everything.

Yep, they will find out what "Build Back Better" really means.

31 posted on 12/24/2023 9:54:19 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kaiser8408a

Uh, no.

Luskin is talking about deflation.

And he knows the difference between deflation and disinflation.


32 posted on 12/24/2023 10:00:15 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rb22982

“where deflation is a real risk”

I view deflation as a positive—would love to see it.


33 posted on 12/24/2023 10:01:55 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly


34 posted on 12/24/2023 10:04:49 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: cgbg

For retirees largely in fixed income, deflation is good. For the rest, the economic impact of deflation is very bad. 0-2% inflation is ideal overall. Personally, I see the fed cutting rates next year but continuing QT unless deflation risk really accelerates.


35 posted on 12/24/2023 10:06:13 AM PST by rb22982
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To: rb22982

“For retirees largely in fixed income, deflation is good.”

Yup—you got it.

Let us deflate our way back to 2020—then we can talk....


36 posted on 12/24/2023 10:07:39 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: broken_clock

Really they just need six hundred, three score and six on their foreheads.

It would be rather apropos... given their absurd and blind devotion


37 posted on 12/24/2023 10:10:43 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: cgbg
Let us deflate our way back to 2020—then we can talk....

You do that, and the economy will collapse. The losses incurred by the shutdowns were real. We papered over them with printing money to keep it afloat. Pull back the money supply by 30% to get inflation back to 2020 and you'd see 15-20% unemployment.

38 posted on 12/24/2023 10:11:29 AM PST by rb22982
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To: PGR88

My father was similar.
Grew up on a farm east of Buffalo.
They were okay because at least they had food.
Told about seeing bread lines in the city

All he got for Christmas one year was a Monkey on a String.Served in MacArthurs Army Air Corp. Saw action on New Guinea and Luzon.
Came home on a hospital ship.

He never threw anything away. You may need that some day.

Merry Christmas


39 posted on 12/24/2023 10:13:45 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: rb22982

We both know the Federal Reserve and .gov would start inflating like crazy people to prevent even the slightest hint of recession—especially in a presidential election year—that is why deflation cannot last long.


40 posted on 12/24/2023 10:14:37 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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