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Airbus Plans A380 Hydrogen Flights In 2026 After Successful Power On Of ZEROe Engine
Simple Flying ^ | 21 January 2024 | BY ANTHONY BANG AN

Posted on 01/22/2024 6:15:41 AM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 01/22/2024 6:15:41 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: 04-Bravo; 1FASTGLOCK45; 1stFreedom; 2ndDivisionVet; 2sheds; 60Gunner; 6AL-4V; A.A. Cunningham; ...

Aviation Ping!....................


2 posted on 01/22/2024 6:16:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Battery humpers won’t like that lol


3 posted on 01/22/2024 6:17:47 AM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Red Badger

“Oh the humanity!”


4 posted on 01/22/2024 6:19:17 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: Red Badger
And how is the hydrogen generated? Through the large use of other forms of energy. Most hydrogen generation uses "hydrocarbon" energy in the moment. Some small attempts to use hydroelectric are also underway. But hydrogen generation is VERY energy demanding. So the "zero" marketing is just that.

M A R K E T I N G

And behind the scenes? Grants and subsidies from government.

5 posted on 01/22/2024 6:20:22 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Red Badger

Some chick is going to get on with a staticky sweater and — BOOM!


6 posted on 01/22/2024 6:21:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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It sounds like they only carry the hydrogen and the oxygen comes from the air. An internal combustion engine does the same thing, but more than oxygen anlways ends up getting involved. I would expect the same, here, unless the fuel-cell is, somehow, more selective.

Of course, this may all be moot, as they probably burn fossil fuels to create the hydrogen in the first place.


7 posted on 01/22/2024 6:23:58 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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Airbus plans to install the hydrogen fuel cell system on its A380 test-bed for in-flight testing in 2026.

Hydrogen fuel cells produce electricity. So how is this supposed to run a jet engine? Or is the author not familiar with the technology?

8 posted on 01/22/2024 6:26:26 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The Truth is like a lion. You don't need to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself.)
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To: Red Badger

Science says CO2 is not a poison.


9 posted on 01/22/2024 6:27:22 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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If the fuel cell works, fine. But wouldn’t a high-velocity propeller connected to the shaft of an electric motor work better than burning the hydrogen for jet engine thrust?

As a conversion of the energy in the fuel to forward propulsion, it would be extremely wasteful to consume the hydrogen to create thrust by heating air to high temperatures. Hydrogen does not store nearly so compactly as liquid petroleum fuels.


10 posted on 01/22/2024 6:28:22 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: Red Badger

The article doesn’t get into the specifics of the engine. I am assuming it will be similar to the turbo prop (short distance) and turbo fan (long distance) except that the propeller or fan will be driven by an electric motor.


11 posted on 01/22/2024 6:30:03 AM PST by libh8er
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Very big waste of time and money right now


12 posted on 01/22/2024 6:34:15 AM PST by butlerweave
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Airbus’s answer to the growing demand [On the part of about .0001 of the population] for sustainable aviation technologies.


13 posted on 01/22/2024 6:34:36 AM PST by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

My college thermo class was taught by a genuine NASA scientist. He had the class work through complicated applications of all the Green energy schemes we see today. Even given the most generous assumptions none of them beat just using plane old oil-based energy.


14 posted on 01/22/2024 6:36:29 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Any time.................


15 posted on 01/22/2024 6:37:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: alloysteel

The output of a fuel cell is electricity. There is no combustion that produces a jet of hot gases. It’s basically a hydrogen powered battery.


16 posted on 01/22/2024 6:37:31 AM PST by libh8er
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“ Very big waste of time and money right now”

Why ?


17 posted on 01/22/2024 6:40:27 AM PST by libh8er
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There’s tons of Jet Fuel out there and that plane is a BUST always was


18 posted on 01/22/2024 6:41:32 AM PST by butlerweave
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the biggest commercial aircraft known to the world

So they're saying there might be a bigger one we don't know about?

19 posted on 01/22/2024 6:42:24 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes. And Liquid hydrogen is hard to contain, and imagine the fireball if the plane crashes for mechanical reasons.

The power density of hydrogen is not good.

Another issue? Range. How far can a plane fly with that kind of fuel supply.

It is probably like electric cars, very short range.

There is no free lunch when it comes to power.


20 posted on 01/22/2024 6:43:43 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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