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Archaeologists Find Evidence of Hallucinogenic Drug in Ancient Rome
hyperallergic.com ^ | February 11, 2024 | Elaine Velie

Posted on 02/13/2024 7:16:31 AM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 02/13/2024 7:16:31 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!.........................


2 posted on 02/13/2024 7:16:52 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Soldier: Sir. The barbarians are coming over the walls! Centurion: Oh how cool. Are they wearing green?

and so Rome fell.


3 posted on 02/13/2024 7:37:46 AM PST by allendale
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To: allendale
King: "The men need to more spaced out"

Rodney:"They already are"

-BC

4 posted on 02/13/2024 7:39:14 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Red Badger
Black henbane (BH) or Hyoscyamus niger, has been used as a medicine since last centuries and has been described in all traditional medicines.

It applies as a herbal medicine, but may induce intoxication accidentally or intentionally.

All part of BH including leaves, seeds and roots contain some alkaloids such as Hyoscyamine, Atropine, Tropane and Scopolamine.

BH has pharmacological effects like bronchodilating, antisecretory, urinary bladder relaxant, spasmolytic, hypnotic, hallucinogenic, pupil dilating, sedative and anti-diarrheal properties.

Clinical manifestations of acute BH poisoning are very wide which include mydriasis, tachycardia, arrhythmia, agitation, convulsion and coma, dry mouth, thirst, slurred speech, difficulty speaking, dysphagia, warm flushed skin, pyrexia, nausea, vomiting, headache, blurred vision and photophobia, urinary retention, distension of the bladder, drowsiness, hyper reflexia, auditory, visual or tactile hallucinations, confusion, disorientation, delirium, aggressiveness, and combative behavior.

The main treatment of BH intoxicated patients is supportive therapies including gastric emptying (not by Ipecac), administration of activated charcoal and benzodiazepines.

Health care providers and physicians particularly emergency physicians and clinical toxicologists should know the nature, medical uses, clinical features, diagnosis and management of BH poisoning.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4224707/

5 posted on 02/13/2024 7:53:28 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: going hot

Years ago where I worked, they handed out little pamphlets offering tips for safe winter driving.

One of the recommendations was “stay spaced out in traffic”.

Certain people thought it was pretty funny!


6 posted on 02/13/2024 7:56:42 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "democracy" like trying to throw your opponent in jail.)
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To: Red Badger

Has anticholinergic compounds...scopolamine, atropine, and hyoscyamine. Jimson weed (high in “scope”)...well known as hallucinogenic, belladonna also contains the same anticholinergic chemicals.
Anticholinergics are used in medicine also. Most of them don’t have the central nervous system effects as the anticholinergics in black henbane at the doses used.
Believe it or not...they used to use belladonna as a cigarette to relieve certain types of asthma. Sometimes patient would go kookoo..nowadays they use less psychoactive anticholinergics.
The ancients knew a lot more than we give them credit for. Even in the topic of medicinal plants. We shouldn’t conclude that the use of black henbane was for recreational hallucinogenic use only.
Fun fact: belladonna interpreted means “beautiful lady”..
Why? Most likely cause it dilated pupils...and ladies who used belladonna would get dilated pupils, and look more attractive...also belladonna might have a “beer goggle” effect on horny men(as long as they don’t take too much)...so any girl looks like a “ bella donna”.
“Oh, Donna”...cried Richie Valens...now you know why.( well....maybe..)..IMHO


7 posted on 02/13/2024 8:09:40 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Pontiac

The last line in paragraph 5 pretty much describes Biden’s press conference performance last week.


8 posted on 02/13/2024 8:28:10 AM PST by redangus ( )
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To: Fresh Wind

On a boxcutter I bought (probably came from China), the decal instructed: “Remove screws, insert blade, screw up.” Something lost in the idiom there.

Once in my classroom we had some German exchange students. One of the girls answered one of my students’ question asking if they had gangs in Germany. She replied, “Yes, there are tough guys in neighborhoods. They challenge each other to meet at a park where they all gather and beat off.” My students could scarcely stifle their guffaws.


9 posted on 02/13/2024 8:31:59 AM PST by Migraine
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To: Red Badger

The New Testament word for witchcraft is ‘pharmakia’ in Greek. I was struck by a building on the Roman Forum’s south side. It’s foundations had a story to tell. It was a pagan temple, then a catholic church, and now the HQ of the Italian pharmacological College. Further, consider the “navel of the world,” the sinkhole in solid rock that served the Delphic Oracle. This demonically influenced woman and her assistants would burn laurel leaves on a charcoal brazier. She would breathe in the psychoactive vapors and see visions. Consider the Aztec king. Once a year, after his wife collected a bowl of blood from him in the most brutal way imaginable, naptha would be mixed with the blood, the liquid burned, he would sniff the smoke, and in an trance would see the vision of the year.

Mind bending drugs are not new. They do not enhance consciousness. They do blur the God-given protective compartmentation of the mind.

They are evil and to be avoided.


10 posted on 02/13/2024 9:01:52 AM PST by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: Getready
My childhood asthma was treated with phenobarbital.
11 posted on 02/13/2024 9:29:53 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Red Badger
Trace analysis of drinking vessels suggests that the use of hallucinogens was more common in the ancient world than is usually realized. Such drugs were apparently added to wine on special occasions and as part of religious rituals, especially in mystery cults. The almost complete lack of direct literary evidence though suggests that the practice was both disfavored as to the general public and something of a dirty secret.
12 posted on 02/13/2024 10:04:38 AM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: Red Badger

Did the drug pushers give 10% to Caesar so they can deal drugs? I’m asking for a friend!


13 posted on 02/13/2024 10:46:46 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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14 posted on 02/13/2024 1:16:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Migraine
On a boxcutter I bought (probably came from China), the decal instructed: “Remove screws, insert blade, screw up.” Something lost in the idiom there.

I believe that's called "Engrish".

15 posted on 02/13/2024 2:15:20 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "democracy" like trying to throw your opponent in jail.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

They also used a product called...Tedral...combined theophylline, ephedrine, and phenobarbital. Glad the phenobarbital worked well for you.


16 posted on 02/13/2024 2:50:08 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

I used Quadrinal. I think it’s the same as Tedral but with one more ingredient.


17 posted on 02/13/2024 3:05:06 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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