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Trump Calls on Arizona to Use ‘HEART’ and ‘COMMON SENSE’ to ‘IMMEDIATELY’ Pass Pro-Choice Legislation in Arizona
Mediaite ^ | April 12, 2024 | Isaac Schorr

Posted on 04/12/2024 1:07:35 PM PDT by Miami Rebel

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To: mikelets456

It NEEDS to happen, or the endgame will overtake this country.

Patience and persistence is key, IMO.


41 posted on 04/12/2024 1:40:26 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

No he won’t.


42 posted on 04/12/2024 1:40:34 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: Pox
...due to RvW, that mindset has proliferated through our society for several generations.

True.

And this is why we're going to be stuck with abortion for a long time to come.

43 posted on 04/12/2024 1:44:00 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Miami Rebel

The way they feel about Abortion is the way I feel about gun rights, and our side MUST ballot harvest gun holders votes, especially at gun shows.


44 posted on 04/12/2024 1:44:46 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: Tell It Right

“The rape/incest/life of mother exceptions are just talking points. …rare….” Yes, but they go a long way with the people who aren’t so far left they want the ability to kill the baby up to and after birth. If we’re serious about saving lives then we can save some to a lot while working to move the center to the right. Hardliners can feel wonderful about maintaining perfect principles while enabling the left.


45 posted on 04/12/2024 1:45:29 PM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: mbrfl
And they also have a right to whine and bitch when Democrats regain power and pass universal abortion rights legislation once more - even if their decision helped to bring it about.

No, they don't have that right.

46 posted on 04/12/2024 1:48:34 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Miami Rebel

I think Trump is politically correct.

Demoncrats are gearing up to drive women to the polls over abortion - painting it the most extreme way they can.

Many Republicans are giving them ammo.

Trump is taking a long-standing political compromise position.

If we expect to win office, something like that has to be the message nationally.

If you don’t want to win office, you will end up with worse.


47 posted on 04/12/2024 1:49:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Miami Rebel

Nevertrumping desantis supporters want Trump to cause himself and the republican party to self destruct by having an absolute abortion ban....

because for them, it’s worth it for them to keep Trump out of office, even if the country goes full blown socialist or marxist with biden and the left winning the 2024 elections


48 posted on 04/12/2024 1:50:38 PM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Life liberty and pursuit of happiness was as hypocritical a theme in 1864 as it is in 2024..


49 posted on 04/12/2024 1:57:20 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Williams

No- The difference is that his opinion will be his national policy. We are not talking about your next door neighbor. He should have just kept his mouth shut.


50 posted on 04/12/2024 1:58:11 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Miami Rebel; All

Our biggest Political enemy is the Upper Middle Class leftist women. Abbott should send Migrants to THIERhomes
Many will follow the antichrist gladly.


51 posted on 04/12/2024 1:59:05 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: Miami Rebel; All

Our biggest Political enemy is the Upper Middle Class leftist women. Abbott should send Migrants to THIERhomes
Many will follow the antichrist gladly.


52 posted on 04/12/2024 1:59:24 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You bring up a fascinating historical parallel. I've been saying that the 2024 election will end up looking like the 1860 election and most likely with a similar aftermath.

Lincoln was not an abolitionist. He and his party were aimed at reversing Dred Scott by keeping slavery out of the territories and preventing its re-establishment in states that had abolished it. This quarantine of slavery was a compromise between the ardent pro-slavery position of the Deep South and the extreme abolitionist position from Ohio and New England that had gone mainstream after the publication of Uncle Tom's Cabin in 1852.

Lincoln and the Republicans stood squarely in the middle, although that turned out to be too much with the Deep South.

53 posted on 04/12/2024 1:59:27 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

IDK if abortion will be that big an issue in AZ?

half the population are catholic/hispanic & the other half are retired snowbirds that don’t have to worry about abortions???


54 posted on 04/12/2024 2:01:38 PM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: mbrfl

I saw a story elsewhere that said Arizona had passed a statute in 2022 establishing a 15 week limit, presumably with the usual exceptions regarding significant and carefully defined physical health risks to the mother. I presume this would have been done after the USSC ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson.

If that is correct, the Arizona Supreme Court apparently held that an 1864 statute supersedes a 2022 statute on the same matter. Political gamesmanship was the first thought that came to mind, but I don’t know anything about the composition of the Arizona Supreme Court.

The pro-abortion response, however, was entirely predictable. Once again, they have run up a false flag and are using the 1864 statute to drum up support for a bait and switch constitutional amendment with open-ended language intended to abolish not only time limits but parental notification and consent, informed consent, fathers’ rights, counseling on alternatives to abortion including adoption, etc.


55 posted on 04/12/2024 2:02:34 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: EEGator

Death, apparently, is amazing for business.


56 posted on 04/12/2024 2:02:46 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: thinden

My point is Trump’s hypocritical position regarding Federalism.

Good for me but not for thee?


57 posted on 04/12/2024 2:04:57 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: thinden; Lakeside Granny

IDK if abortion will be that big an issue in AZ?

half the population are catholic/hispanic & the other half are retired snowbirds that don’t have to worry about abortions???


What about all of the Californians, who’ve invaded AZ?

I read, the other day, that AZ is only 30% pro-life.

(Will have to try to find the poll source. Maybe it was Planned Parenthood 😱)


58 posted on 04/12/2024 2:06:31 PM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Petrosius; All

Strategy.

John 11:50

God literally let his son die, brutally on a cross for the greater good. No one on this board wants babies to be killed before they even get a chance at life but we’re dealing with a reality. Not everyone agrees to 0 abortions and 0 exceptions. If you keep losing you won’t be fighting for 15 weeks, that’s certain.


59 posted on 04/12/2024 2:08:53 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: Miami Rebel

A baby is inside the womb from the start until day of birth. Murder is never justified.


60 posted on 04/12/2024 2:09:07 PM PDT by Cedar
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