Posted on 04/29/2024 4:50:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber
I guess you have to give the political science majors something to do or the crime rate will soar.
Manhattan Contrarian ping
Here’s the money shot!
We need to immediately take money from working people to save the world.
Just another scam to put money in the pockets of rich people by taking it from middle class and the working poor.
And if a volcano goes off and dims the sunlight over a continent for a few months what do you do? It’s like the human race planning its own mass extinction event.
LINK: The Energy Storage Conundrum"
This is a phenomenally well done paper.
It is actually quite alarming, but I would rather be supplied with facts than with the Unicorn Farts and Pixie Dust these mental midgets in the various governmental and UN Agencies have been providing to the public.
Poli-sci majors make for poor scientists...................
What about a good old fashioned lead battery?
Oh, wait.
It’s the evil lead.
Nevermind
“What about a good old fashioned lead battery?”
Old Fashioned: Yes
But I haven’t seem a good one in decades.
What they are making these days have inferior plates and won’t last 5 years.
Bring back the glass encased, 20 year cells.
Good post, thank you. But I have to argue one point based on perspective.
“but are not actually very smart.”
Depends on perspective. When you realize their true ulterior end goals they are right on top of it. The true end goal is to flip the switch off and throw us back to cave man status to reduce population in mass. They are doing an excellent job of setting up the perfect storm to do just that.
It is not supposed to actually work, that is the true plan.
IEA-Insistent Expert Aholes
FWIW, my lithium-ion batteries give me back only 90% of the power sent to them. Last year, my inverters sent a total of 12.0667 MWh to the batteries, and got back 10.8805 MWh. A 10% loss through the process of storing power to the batteries, the batteries holding the charge usually for less than half a day, and discharging the power from the batteries. It'd be a much larger loss if the batteries were expected to hold a charge for months to make it through the winter.
That 10% loss was expected and is within the parameters of me meeting my goals of being 80% energy independent (with me pulling from the grid 20% of my power needs for my all-electric house, including charging the EV which we do most of our driving in).
I'd have to probably double my solar capacity, inverter capacity, and battery capacity to be 100% energy independent. Why that much needed for the last 20%? Because of the law of diminishing returns. It's simply not feasible.
And that's for just a 2-person home (and 2-person driving). Imagine trying to be 100% "green energy" for not just a home, but a city, with large buildings, and large power needs like a hospital building or a manufacturing plant.
And that's with my warm sunny climate in Alabama. Imagine a northern city trying to be 100% energy independent. It'd be ridiculously expensive and even then require a lot of restrictions on their energy consumptions during rainy winters. Going all "green" is just a fantasy.
And not a single locality, government, or agency ANYWHERE has seriously begun exploring and designing energy storage facilities of ANY kind.
Zero. Nada. Zilch. Squat.
And yet, like lemmings, our governments are actually, and deliberately rushing headlong to asinine Net Zero goals WITHOUT EVEN AN INKLING THAT RENEWABLES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE 24 HOUR DISTRIBUTION OF ENERGY.
What our own government, and others around the world are doing can be described with this analogy:
The sixty day limit is the fabled NetZero target date. And they are doing this in the idiotic and immoral "hope" that technology is going to provide a miracle cure that will bail them out.
I remember that in high School you could tell who did their homework and who slapped it together at the last minute. You could just tell...
It seems to me that an awful lot of reports coming out these days from ‘officials’ look just like that.
The Brain-dead and their green energy
Batteries are better then ever. Way back in the good old days, a top shelf car battery had an 18 month warranty.
The 12 volt system was introduced in 1956 - then new high compression engines, AC, power accessories, meant the 6 volt electric system couldn’t keep up, especially with generator charging systems.
Modern cars and trucks have all that stuff and more. Security systems, satellite comms, all sorts of parasitic drains. Check the voltage after a few days and they are depleted. There is enough juice to reliably start the engine - but the battery will be toast in just a fraction of its potential service life.
Just...wow.
My last trip with lead acid was the Deka sealed 12 volt ones.
Didn’t get five years before almost every one was dropping one cell. New they were going for $450. I bought them 3 years old and had nothing but issues.
My usage was 4 in series to get 48 volts for a solar inverter. I could float them to 54v, but when called upon, they would undervolt within unreasonable time.
Not worth the details, they are in the heap.
Today I am a happy camper with 280ah LiFeP04.
“I’d have to probably double my solar capacity, inverter capacity, and battery capacity to be 100% energy independent.”
Lived completely off grid for over 12 years. About to go back off grid again. The first important step is just changing lifestyle so that you require less power. Believe it or not, folks once lived just fine without any electricity at all. Reducing demand is the first step to becoming 100% energy independent.
I’m pretty happy with my 51.2V/100Ah LifePo4’s. All 18 of them. Total 92kWh. And with my two inverters at most demanding 18kW of continuous power from them, that means at most I’m draining each battery at a rate of only 1kW. So it’s not like I’m working them hard. They ought to last beyond the 19-year/50% warranty. Six of them are three years old and so far I haven’t seen the slightest degradation.
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