Oh no, I not submissive. I like to wear these things.
Posted on 10/24/2001 7:49:08 AM PDT by LiveFree2000
Why White Men
Prefer Asian Women
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Toogood Reports [Wednesday, October 24, 2001; 12:01 a.m. EST] URL: http://ToogoodReports.com/ There is near me an Asian sushi-beer-and-dinner establishment that I´ll call the Asia Spot. The region is urban, so the clientele is a mix of some of just about everything, but the waitresses are all Asian, principally Japanese, Indonesian, Vietnamese, and Thai. The Spot is a neighborhood bar. A large after-work crowd, many of them regulars, gather at happy hour. The social dynamics are curious. It would be an exaggeration to say, as someone did, that the black guys come to pick up white women, and the white men come to get away from them – but it would be an exaggeration of an underlying truth. The waitresses are a large part of the Spot´s appeal. A common subject of conversation among male customers is how very attractive these women are when compared to American women. It is not a thought safe to utter in mixed company. It is a very common thought. American women know it. Why are the Asians attractive? What, to huge numbers of men, makes almost any Asian more appealing than almost any American? The question is much discussed by men at the Spot. (I should say here that when I say “women,” I mean the majority of women, the mainstream, the center of gravity. Yes, there are exceptions and degrees.) American women of my acquaintance offer several explanations, all of them wrong. For example, they say that Asian women are sexually easy. No. American women are sexually easy. The waitresses at the Spot are not available. They date, but they cannot be picked up. Another explanation popular among American women is that men want submissive women, which Asians are believed to be. Again, no. For one thing, submissive people are bland and boring. In any event the waitresses aren´t submissive. Many compete successfully in tough professions. Among Asian waitresses I know I count an electrical engineer who does wide-area networks, and a woman with a masters in biochemistry who, upon finding that research required a Ph.D and didn´t pay, went back to school and became a dentist. Both of these wait tables to help out in the family restaurant. At the Spot I know a woman waitressing her way through a degree in computer security, a bright Japanese college graduate making a career in the restaurant business, and the manager of the Spot – not a light-weight job. Submissiveness has nothing to do with their attractiveness. Why, then, are they so very appealing? To begin with, look at the American women in the Spot. Perhaps a third of them are stylishly dressed. The rest of the gringas run from undistinguished to dumpster-casual: baggy jeans, oversize shirts -- often male shirts -- with the tails out. They seem to affect a sort of homeless chic, actually to want to look bad, and do it with more than a touch of androgyny. A high proportion are at least somewhat overweight. (So are the men, but that´s another subject.) The Asians, without exception, are sleek, well-groomed, and dressed with an understated sexiness that never pushes trashy. Further, the Asians are what were once called “ladies,” a thought repellant to feminists but very so refreshing to men. Listen to the American women at neighboring tables, and you will frequently hear phrases like, “He´s a f---ing piece of shit.” In what appears to be a determined attempt to be men, they have adopted the mode of discourse of a male locker room and made it their normal language. The Asians, classier, better students of men, do not have foul mouths. They presumably know about body parts and bathroom functions, but do not believe that a woman raises her stature by referring to them constantly in mixed company. Men at the Spot, I have noticed, instantly understand that colloquial commentary is not wanted, and don´t engage in it: In the presence of the civilized, men adopt the standards of civilization. Men also tend to think of women as women think of themselves. The Asians, without displaying vanity, clearly think well of themselves. And ought to. All in all, they give the impression that they do not want to be one of the guys. They want to be one of the girls. Here we come to the core of their appeal. Let me elaborate. The default position of American women is what men refer to as “the chip,” a veiled truculence, mixed with a not-very-veiled hostility toward men and a shaky sense of sexual identity. The result is a touchiness reminiscent of hungover ferrets. There is a bandsaw edge to them, a watching for any slight so that they can show that they aren´t going to take it. They are poised to lash out in aggressive defense of their manhood. As best as I can tell, they don´t like being women. Here is the entire problem in five words. The Asians at the Spot show every indication that they do like being women. They do not seem to have anything to prove. Being happy with what they are allows them to be comfortable with what they are not – men. They are not competing to be what they can´t be with people who can´t be anything else. They don´t have to establish their masculinity because they don´t want it. They do not assume, as American women tend to, that femaleness is a diseased condition to be treated by male clothes, gutter language, and bad temper. I´ve spent many dozens of hours chatting with the gals at the Spot, and never seen a sign of the chip. For a man, the experience is wonderful beyond description – smart, pretty, classy women, who are women, and are not the enemy. As long as American women carry the chip, the Asian gals will eat them alive in the dating market. Note that the espousal of hostile obnoxiousness as a guiding philosophy appears to be an almost uniquely American horror. It certainly isn´t requisite to independence or self-respect. I recently met a quite attractive blonde who, among other things, was smart, a long-haul motorcyclist, a student of the martial arts out of sheer athletic enjoyment of it, and an excellent marksman. She was also heterosexual, feminine, delightful company, and had no trace of “the chip.” I was astonished. How was this possible, I wondered? She was Canadian. |
Hell, *everyone* knows Canadian chicks are easy. :)
Lorena Bobbit was "hispanic," or perhaps "his panic" was Lorena.
Well, Mr. Reed disagrees and makes his point very well.
"The default position of American women is what men refer to as “the chip,” a veiled truculence, mixed with a not-very-veiled hostility toward men and a shaky sense of sexual identity. The result is a touchiness reminiscent of hungover ferrets. There is a bandsaw edge to them, a watching for any slight so that they can show that they aren´t going to take it. They are poised to lash out in aggressive defense of their manhood."
Nice set of spectacles, there, Fred.
My wife is Hispanic and is anything but submissive and she never pretended to be when we were dating. Please don't generalize.
Denial. is not a river in Egypt.
Ever see them eat? They take 3 large spoonfuls of rice,
look at a large American woman
(large meaning size 12, Oh-my-God huge to them)
and push the bowl of rice away.
The older I get, the more I think that the average white man is a pedophile.
They all want the same thing: a woman who looks like a child.
They may seem to be submissive, but that's only when compared to American women. You seem to be confusing 'feminine' with 'submissive'.
My wife is very feminine and is very happy to be a woman. She doesn't try to be a man, doesn't want to wear my clothes, doesn't want to do so-called Man's Work around the house, expects me to open doors for her, doesn't cuss like a sailor, etc. But submissive! No way! If she wants something or believes in something strong enough she can be just as forceful and 'masculine' as any American woman.
A more accurate title of this would be "Why White Men Prefer Women", because far too many American women try too hard to be men.
This is not to say that all American women are inferior to Asian women. When I was younger I met many of them - unfortunately for me they all married my friends. As I got a little older I met fewer and fewer real women until my wife came along.
Three dates and I was hooked! We've been married 5 1/2 years and I wouldn't trade her for any women in the world!
BTW: My wife does not read FR, so I'm not just buttering her up.
Having said that, Caucasian women age far better.
Asian women are beautiful and so polite and kind but, being a 'leg man' of sorts they have a tendency to have short legs when compared with most American women of European heritage. I'm sorry, it's just been my personal observation.
Wait, I'm not done being a jerk yet. To me, the most beautiful women in the world are those of Arab descent between the ages of 18 to 35. After that it's like there is some hideous hag trying to come to the surface.
I must now apologize to everyone and admit that I myself am no prize and deserve all the flaming I will soon justly recieve.
Only big problem is being accepted by their families. Asian fathers do not accept non-Asian men as being the "right" choice for their daughters. There will always be a language barrier.
Asian women are not "easy." Not easy at all.
A whole new article could be written on how today's woman has a very hard time finding a manly man. And most men have NO clue on what that means to a woman..... And the battle of the sexes rages on. Ain't it cool? Cheers, CC :)
ROFL!
I have spent a great deal of time in Asia and I can tell you that I NEVER saw an Asian woman that was not well kept and polite. Even in third world countries. They are always clean and neatly dressed. Quality of clothes aside. Give me a good Asian woman to talk with anytime. They beat the chip of the American psycho b*tchs any day. Live on Tom Lycos.
I had never heard it called this, but had noticed it myself. However, it is only common among single white American women. The married, black, or foreign-born ones don't usually seem to have those kind of "issues".
As far as physical beauty is concerned, I find the excellent specimens of each ethnic type equally attractive; but it is true, a greater relative proportion of Asian women seem to approach this excellence (a big, but not the only, reason being that they stay in better physical shape, which I'm guessing is due to diet more than exercise).
I suggest you have no idea what it is like to be a man.
Costume for some, work uniform for others, required wear for others.
Good grief, Man.
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