Posted on 06/19/2002 1:18:53 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
Thirty players on each side, at least one player from each team, starters listed first:
NATIONAL LEAGUE
Catcher:
Mike "Deep Dish" Piazza
Damian "The Omen" Miller
First Base:
Todd "Stayin' at the" Helton
Richie Sexson "The City"
Second Base:
Jose "In" Vidro
Luis "They Call Him 'The Streak'" Castillo
Shortstop:
Jimmy Rollins
Jose Hernandez
Third Base:
Mike Lowell
Edgardo Alfonzo
Outfield:
Barry "U.S." Bonds
Sammy Sosa
Jim Edmonds
Vladimir Guerrero
Luis "Gummo" Gonzalez
"The Life of" Brian Giles
Larry "Sky" Walker
Andruw "I Got a Baseball" Jones
Pitcher:
Tom Glavine
Curt "Half" Schilling
Randy Johnson
Matt Morris
Greg Maddux
Roy Oswalt
Byung-Hyun "A Slider" Kim
Eric "Vern" Gagne
Jason Isringhausen
Danny "Unmarked" Graves
Robb Nen
Trevor Hoffman
AMERICAN LEAGUE
Catcher:
"Jorgeous" Jorge Posada
A. J. "That Part Was Easy" Pierzynski
First Base:
Jason Giambi "Hind in My Payments"
Paul Konerko "The Dots"
Mike "Itsy Bitsy Teeny" Sweeney
Second Base:
Alfonso "Say You're" Soriano
Ray "Chicago Bull" Durham
Shortstop:
Alex "A+ Rod" Rodriquez
Nomar "Tears" Garciaparra
Omar "He's a Hitmaker, Too" Vizquel
Derek "Four Shortstops? Yes!" Jeter
Third Base:
Eric Chavez "Ravine"
Tony Batista
Outfield:
Ichiro Suzuki "Method"
Bernie "Down the House" Williams
Torii "Loyalist" Hunter
Johnny "Notre" Damon
"Artist's" Garrett Anderson
Randy "On a Team That Can't" Winn
Rob "Gotta Have a Tiger" Fick
Pitcher:
Derek "His ERA Is" Lowe
Bartolo "Semi" Colon
Mark Buehrle
Pedro "Dry" Martinez
Barry Zito
Freddy Garcia
Roy "Roman" Halladay
Ugueth "Yewz" Urbina
Kaz Sasaki
Eddie Guadardo
Sorry, I'm prejudiced. But aren't we great?
I'm hoping the Angels and the Diamondbacks battle it out in the World Series. There would be some fabulous games, and only six hours driving apart.
Wow! You're a Diamondback. What position do you play? /sarcasm
I thought JimRob banned A+Rod.
Well, they must be related, somehow.
"A+" isn't a very common surname... not like "Green" anyhow.
I bet they're cousins.
A.J. Pierzynski, .323
Dan Wilson, .300
Sandy Alomar jr., .287
Jason Varitek, .271
Benjie Molina, .271
Tom Wilson, .262
(Ben Davis with 98 ABs is hitting .276)
That is an old fashioned argument for several players being above Posada in the All Star race.
If you look at OPS though he is clearly only behind Pierzynski.
OPS for AL Catchers
A.J. Pierzynski, .872
Posada .845
The next closest is Tom Wilson with a .776 and it drops off pretty rapidly from there, not to mention most other Catchers are not playing nearly as much as Posada and P-ski. They all have caught much fewer games than those two except for Benjie Molina but his OBP is only .289 which is lousy and barely more than his Batting avg.
It's clear that Dan Wilson is having a comeback year this year and Varitek is clearly a very good catcher, but Posada and P-ski are by far the best two catchers in the AL this year and Posada's HR advantage, 10-4 over P-ski, makes him a notch above P-ski in many people's eyes but that is debatable due to the closeness of their OPS values.
I think he's hit that magic "Innings Pitched" number where a talented pitcher puts talent to better use through the knowledge he's learned over his first 3-4 years of getting beat up by the league (look at guys like Mac Suzuki of the Royals who has the ability to hit 95 and has a very good splitter for an out pitch but can't even make it as a set-up man because he just hasn't figured out how to use those two pitches effectively).
They're the defending champs, of course, and are playing great again this year. Notice that I have five D-Backs (Johnson, Schilling, Kim, Gonzalez, and Miller) on my All-Star team (tied with the Yanks and Red Sox for the most). I could reasonably have had a sixth D-Back, as well: Junior Spivey at second base.
I agree with you on your "Dooner" Junior Spivey choice. He's such a great person and a darned good player.
They're very close, aren't they? But I give the edge to Posada for having the better career.
Of course, we're only looking at offensive value with OPS. I could check the defensive stats to see if there's much difference there. But defensive evaluation is also helped by seeing the guys play, and I have not yet seen Pierzynski in action.
For catchers, defense is so important to their value. I pick Piazza in the NL because of his huge offensive numbers over the years, miles ahead of the other catchers. But his defense pulls him down. Piazza is by far the easiest catcher to run on.
I thought about that, but still went with Fick. Weaver is much improved, no doubt, and a workhorse. But his ERA is only OK, not great, and he does have that losing record. But I wouldn't object if Weaver is the Tiger chosen--especially if he throws another shutout or two, like he did the other night.
I hear you, but still would pick Halliday and not Hinske. Halliday legitimately may be among the top seven starters in the league and not just the Blue Jays' "charity choice." As for Hinske, while he is putting up good numbers--as good as Chavez and Batista and Hillenbrand so far--Hinske is a rookie, I believe, and I have hard time putting a guy on the All-Star team when he's only played in the bigs for less than three months. (Notice I didn't pick Kaz Ishii for the NL pitchers.)
NATIONAL LEAGUE (15)
Catcher: Benito Santiago, Paul LoDuca, Michael Barrett
First base: Ryan Klesko
Second base: Jeff Kent, Fernando Vina, Junior Spivey
Shortstop: Edgar Renteria
Outfield: Lance Berkman, Shawn Green, Chipper Jones, Albert Pujols, Pat Burrell
Pitcher: Odalis Perez, Mike Williams
AMERICAN LEAGUE (11)
First base: Jim Thome, John Olerud
Third base: Shea Hillenbrand
Outfield: Manny Ramirez (rehab, otherwise on), Jacque Jones, Magglio Ordonez
Pitcher: Mariano Rivera (DL, otherwise on), Roger Clemens, Jamie Moyer, Steve Karsay, Billy Koch
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