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Sherman the Pyromaniac
LewRockwell.com ^ | June 21, 2002 | Gail Jarvis

Posted on 06/21/2002 7:41:57 AM PDT by Aurelius

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To: drjimmy
To 'free the slaves', isn't that the lame arguement yanks spout all the time?
21 posted on 06/21/2002 8:48:06 AM PDT by Pern
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To: antidisestablishment
Don't forget Curtis LeMay and "Bomber" Harris to your list.

My only objection to your "disciples" would be that they don't do their fighting in uniform or as parts of recognizable centers of government or authority.

That being said, since our enemies choose to hide amongst willing civilian supporters, our targets should then be anyone supporting or contributing to our enemies: Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, the Palestinian Authority, etc, etc, etc .. men, women, and children .. until they turn on Al Qaeda and the other terrorist organizations.

200 years from now, I want their children's children's children's children to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead because their legends tell of fire from the sky.

I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth, shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.

I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with "If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you", and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obesience.

I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea .. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.

Kill them all ... nits make lice.
(COL Chivington, Sand Creek)

22 posted on 06/21/2002 8:49:03 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Aurelius
"Hurrah, hurrah!, we bring the Jubilee,

Hurrah, hurrah!, the flag that set you free,

Sang it as we marched along from Atlanta to the sea,

While we were marching through Georgia!

23 posted on 06/21/2002 8:49:06 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine
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To: Aurelius
Part of the Sherman's March to the Sea plan was to burn all of the South's war machine, from factories, farms, livestock and any thing else that fed the Confederate's cause.

Many ladies of the South pleaded with Sherman to spare food crops so that the children would not starve. The story is that Sherman's army left the fields of black eyed peas as the last standing crop. The black eyed peas carried the citizens through the next years of hunger.

This is the story of why it is for good luck to serve and eat black eyed peas on New Year's day...to be able to make through the next year. This is what had been passed down in my family. Corn bread is part of the good luck, but it may just be that these two foods just go together.

24 posted on 06/21/2002 8:49:22 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Pern
"To 'free the slaves', isn't that the lame arguement yanks spout all the time?"

Heck no ... that was just a convenient image to use to keep Britain and France out of the war.

It was pure power politics, plain and simple ... and successful.

25 posted on 06/21/2002 8:50:42 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: dighton; aculeus
Details at 10.
26 posted on 06/21/2002 9:10:30 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Pern
Probably not. The southern will to win was not as strong as the Union's. Had Jackson lived the war may have been prolonged but the outcome would have been the same.
27 posted on 06/21/2002 9:11:53 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BlueLancer
Your objections are duly noted, but I would respectfully respond that officers wearing enlisted uniforms places them well off the reservation. ;)

To be honest, I am not much of a neo-reb and I think Lincoln was a decent man caught in an untenable position. And despite my personal distaste for Sherman, he was a man of the times as well. If it weren't him; it would have been someone else.

However, that doesn't excuse his behavior and the callous disregard of the rules of war. The South had every right to reciprocate, but Lee wouldn't consider it. Sometimes the price of victory is too great.

Of course, our progenators did to Cathage exactly what you suggest and I would have to agree completely with the sentiment. However, the specifics are hard to work out. Since, as you pointed out, the combatants are not officially associated with any "true" nation.

And, short of total nuclear war, you could not accomplish the destruction of your list of "culpable" nations. And do you think the rest of the world will sit idly by as we nuke the entire Middle East? Sheesh, if it were only that simple!

28 posted on 06/21/2002 9:14:36 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: antidisestablishment
The South had every right to reciprocate, but Lee wouldn't consider it. Sometimes the price of victory is too great.

What about one of the few times the Southern forces got into a Northern town of any size, Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, and burned it just as thoroughly as Columbia was enflamed?

29 posted on 06/21/2002 9:20:51 AM PDT by curmudgeonII
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To: antidisestablishment
Sometimes the price of victory is too great.

Yes an honorable victory, something Sherman knew nothing about.

30 posted on 06/21/2002 9:21:41 AM PDT by Pern
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To: drjimmy
I am the great-grandson of a Confederate officer. Yet for the life of me, I just do not understand why so many southern whites keep bringing up the War Between the States... It was 137 years ago d*mn it! It's all water LONG ago under the bridge! Whether Sherman was a brute (I think he was...) or Lincoln a true abolitionist (I think he was, relatively) or Lee a hero (of course he was) or Jeff Davis a fool (he was...) or whether they were all racists (by the standards of today, certainly)AND most importantly whether the Federal government at that time laid the legal precedence illigitimately for the modern giant tyrannical welfare state (I think it probably did...) is all immaterial now--as the past is PAST.

If we are going to build a better world for our children we can NOT be mired in fighting battles long ago lost... You sountherners have a lot more in common with Northern conservatives (however you may disagree about the War) than with Southern liberals don't you? Bill Clinton, case in point... Conservatives should be thinking about how we can improve things now, and in the future... not worrying so much about that awful war--which really was a very long time ago.

31 posted on 06/21/2002 9:21:44 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: antidisestablishment
"Sheesh, if it were only that simple!"

Sheesh ... you got that right.
8')

32 posted on 06/21/2002 9:21:49 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Aurelius
Israel could use a Sherman.
33 posted on 06/21/2002 9:24:47 AM PDT by DinkyDau
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To: Jimmy Valentine
"Hurrah, hurrah!, the flag that set you free,

The bigger the lie, the better, as Hitler said.

34 posted on 06/21/2002 9:30:04 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: DinkyDau
"Israel could use a Sherman."

Heck, the United States could use a Sherman right about now.

35 posted on 06/21/2002 9:30:33 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: DinkyDau
"Israel could use a Sherman."

Maybe they can get Hillary to summon him up for them, from "his own place".

36 posted on 06/21/2002 9:41:20 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: Aurelius
BTTT
37 posted on 06/21/2002 9:53:01 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Pern
well said!

and if they'd listened to old nate forrest in january '65 we would be free! partisan warfare on a large scale would have EVENTUALLY been to much for the northern populus to bear!

for a FREE dixie REPUBLIC,sw

38 posted on 06/21/2002 10:18:32 AM PDT by stand watie
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To: xkaydet65
well you didn't learn anything from Nurenburg, did you?

for dixie,sw

39 posted on 06/21/2002 10:19:24 AM PDT by stand watie
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To: moyden
LOL!
40 posted on 06/21/2002 10:20:07 AM PDT by stand watie
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